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Fresh samples from Samyang's 24mm tilt shift!

 
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May 05, 2013 00:00 as a reply to  @ post 15897025 |  #31

Not so good early sneak peek from R.C./Lens Rentals.

1 in 8 was horrible de-centered.

The values were lower center and overall average than the 24 T&S II....
AND the 24-105L at 24mm?!!!??????!!!

Man, sadly maybe the lenstip photos were telling the tale. I was hoping it would be the Samyang samples that told the tale.

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May 05, 2013 15:11 |  #32

If anyone is interested, I just put up the full numbers: http://www.lensrentals​.com …-5-tilt-shift-lens-part-1 (external link)

It does fairly well stopped down.


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May 05, 2013 19:42 |  #33

Roger Cicala wrote in post #15900294 (external link)
If anyone is interested, I just put up the full numbers: http://www.lensrentals​.com …-5-tilt-shift-lens-part-1 (external link)

It does fairly well stopped down.

Thanks for the write up, looking forward to the teardown. Cheap-looking plastic knobs and levers are not exactly what I'd be willing to pay $1K for.


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May 06, 2013 03:38 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #34

What a let down for a hands-on. I had a high hopes on this Samyang TS lens.

The sharpness is not even better than my 17-40.


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May 06, 2013 13:39 |  #35

Sadness.

I expected this lens to be on par with the Samyang 14mm.




  
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May 06, 2013 14:11 as a reply to  @ Osiriz's post |  #36

Well neither the 24-105 nor 17-40 are very useful for landscapes until stopped down to f11 and it looks like this lens is pretty good there. On thing I wish about some of my lenses is that they were optically better at f8-f11 instead of f4-f5.6.

Even if it is as good as the 17-40 at f11, IMO shift cannot be overrated for certain types of landscape shooting. Again, IMO, it should be the #1 reason for considering a tilt-shift for landscapes/architectur​e.

Anyway, speaking of Roger at Lensrentals reminded me of something he put together:

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May 06, 2013 15:55 |  #37

Yikes: I'd assume the main role of a 24mm TS lens would be to work with lots of straights lines (perspective correction in architectural shots), and with 2.3% barrel distortion (non-correctable via lens profiles, unlike non-TS lenses) there will be no straight lines in Samyang TS shots. (For comparison: Canon has 0.9% distortion.)


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May 07, 2013 07:31 |  #38

Got mine. I seem to have no sharpness problems in corners and no CA anywhere. Weee.

No AF confirmation and no camera-controlled aperture, and no telling the camera what it was (voice recorder here I come).

Essentially zero MFD, you can set thingie on a piece of paper at 45 degrees and focus on the text. Good for food photography?

I'll open the sample thread after I have coffee and shoot my dog tree.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

  
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May 07, 2013 19:36 |  #39

uOpt wrote in post #15906111 (external link)
Got mine. I seem to have no sharpness problems in corners and no CA anywhere. Weee.

No AF confirmation and no camera-controlled aperture, and no telling the camera what it was (voice recorder here I come).

Essentially zero MFD, you can set thingie on a piece of paper at 45 degrees and focus on the text. Good for food photography?

I'll open the sample thread after I have coffee and shoot my dog tree.

How does the build quality feel, especially of all the twiddly bits? Do they feel like they could last up to several years of hard use?


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May 07, 2013 21:33 |  #40

Sirrith wrote in post #15908609 (external link)
How does the build quality feel, especially of all the twiddly bits? Do they feel like they could last up to several years of hard use?

It's all plastic but it feels fine to me. Locking works correctly. I'm kind of glad it is plastic because it pretty big and I won't enjoy carrying another heavyweight.

My main points of concern so far are:
- focal length increase when focusing toward infinity
- no automatic aperture control (and no telling the camera what it is, and no AF confirm)

As you can see, image quality is not on the concern list :) Barrel distortion might enter it but I just didn't have time to use it for real. I posted some samples in the sample archives, but no masterpieces.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

  
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May 08, 2013 06:12 |  #41

The 24-105 beats it on sharpness? Fail.


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May 08, 2013 07:24 |  #42

The tear down is up now. Build quality is reasonable for the price.

http://www.lensrentals​.com …mm-f3-5-tilt-shift-part-2 (external link)


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May 08, 2013 08:53 |  #43

uOpt wrote in post #15909034 (external link)
It's all plastic but it feels fine to me. Locking works correctly. I
My main points of concern so far are:
- focal length increase when focusing toward infinity
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This is just how internal focusing works, nothing to be concerned about.


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May 08, 2013 09:38 |  #44

The Digital Picture (external link) site has some direct comparisons with the Canon version. They've come to the same conclusion. If you shoot landscapes at f8 or smaller, you're ok. Wide open shots show a major difference, though.


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May 08, 2013 09:50 |  #45

M_Six wrote in post #15910528 (external link)
The Digital Picture (external link) site has some direct comparisons with the Canon version. They've come to the same conclusion. If you shoot landscapes at f8 or smaller, you're ok. Wide open shots show a major difference, though.

Was coming here to share this link as well. I was interested in the wide open performance, but from TDP's test shots, it is pretty soft. Bummer.


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