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My transition from 5 lenses to 3. My zoom vs. prime decisions are over.

 
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Apr 27, 2013 12:36 |  #1

Let this be a place to talk about zoom -> prime transitions. and perhaps vice versa?
They are tools. Expensive tools.
What tools do you want vs. need.


Two weeks ago I had five lenses and two flashes:
24-105L
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135L
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( edit- fast forward to June 2014 and I'm back to zooms AND primes! steady real estate work prompted me to trade my 24Lii for the 16-35Lii, straight up. and with the events I have planned for this year, plus weddings, I wanted the 24-70ii).

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I sold the 24-105L that came with my mark3 on craigslist for $775.
I sold the 16-35L and a 82mm filter for $1475 on ebay.
I paid $1399 for the lens before the earthquake.
They are gone, just like that. May miss them, but I just was not using them.
The only time I used them is on vacation. $2k in lenses to be used once or twice a year, no thanks.
Bye bye zooms.

I wanted to keep the 85L. It's just special for portraits.
YES, it's a lot of glass and therefore quite heavy!
It's the only lens that I kept.

I had a big plan though. The plan was to have three prime lenses, and they would all be super fast.
So I sold my 430exii on ebay. I included a diffuser. The kit fetched $260. Back to the plan:

1. I wanted to get something that was almost just as special as the 85L. But a lot easier to use casually, or on a trip.
At the time I was considering all of this, Pixel Junkie posted an interesting thread,
which pushed me over the fence. I got the 50L (my 2nd time on this train).

2. Remember I sold the 16-35L. The 50L is really close to my 35L.
The combination of this resulted in a need for a wide prime.
Incoming! The 24L ii.

Other tidbits of information... why did I make the transition from HOLY TRINITY to UNHOLY?
All capabilities mentioned rely on the fact that I am using the 5D markiii.
I am not 100% sure if I would have the same feelings if I was shooting with the 5DC, for example.



> The 35L vs 50L.
The 35L is great. Why?
It's good for people and stuff. Good in low light, good at night therefore.
So the baby of the holy trinity was my go-to lens for social activities at night.
Also, for environmental portrait.

The 50L is very close FL wise to the 35L, so it will work for virtually all of the same things as a 35L.
But it will be a little more special (color, bokeh, 1.2, build).
The 50L is great for people.
It's the very good walkabout FL on a FF.
If I want to go on a vacation and bring just one lens, 50L it can really do it all.
- the candids, the portraits, the landscape, evening.
There is something about the 50L, the rendering... yea you knew that.
But 50mm is really a great place to be. When you have it, you just feel good. You are versatile!

> 35L vs 50L.
> Owning 50L and 85L, what is unholy about this?
The 85mm is a MAJOR commitment, financially and also it's practicality.
You KNOW when you have the 85L on your body, or in your bag.
The 85mm is obviously perfect for portrait.
But the 50mm is there for portrait and everything else, too.
It allows me to be closer to kids. I love having both.

> 85L vs 135L
With my 5D mark iii, I can do sports with my 85L.
But I am tempted to go for a 4th prime, the 200L.
I know, I had the 135L, but it was NOT getting used.
The 85L was just too much fun. I always made it work in areas that the 135L may have been the proper choice.
I do feel sort of UNHOLY moving my 135L, it was my first prime L.
So affordable, such amazing color and fantastic AF. But I wasn't ever using it. BYE BYE!


> The 24L vs 35L. I would say the 24L is not AS good for people as the 35L, close but no.
But with the 50L I am ok.
The 24L ii came out in 2008. It's AF, build, color... all superb. 35 isn't wide enough to be wide. 24 is wide enough.


If you can afford to have all ..... 24, 35, 50, 85, 135, sweet - you rock!
But will you use them all? In the same month?
They are tools. Get the tools you need -not want.
Draw it up, what do you do with your tools? Which tools help you put money in your pocket?

Before, I had 5 lenses. I felt like I was leaving the house with the shower running all day, for no good reason.
It feels so good to only have 3 lenses.

My unholy trinity! It may not be the best trinity for you. What is your trinity all about?

My UN Holy Trinity Lineup:
  • 24L ii - wide
  • 50L - standard and portrait, fun walkabout lens, perfect FL
  • 85L - portrait


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I also moved to a carbon fiber tripod.
The Gitzo1542T. $175 rebate right now.
T for traveler, super lightweight at 2.2 lbs. Super capable though.
I ordered a Markins ballhead Q3-T. T = special made for Gitzo travel tripods.
And also on the way, is a Markins P53U plate, I can not wait for it to arrive.

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Use what you own. Own what you need.
I have an insurance policy on my gear - recommended!
My policy needs updating now (down).

Well, that's my story. If you're not using a few lenses in your kit, sell or trade up.
It's a lot of fun once you figure out what tools YOU need.

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Apr 27, 2013 12:51 |  #2

Welcome back! Interesting to read your thoughts/reasons on the re-arranging of your kit. I'm very tempted to get rid of two of my lenses (the Zeiss, sadly because for my purposes I just need the AF and it's just been sitting for months). I only ever use my 24-105 at 24 for architecture so I was playing with the thought of getting a 24L.


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Apr 27, 2013 12:56 |  #3

Looks okay! But I think I will miss some focal lengths when I do something like this.

I am thinking a couple of months now from trading my 24-70L to a fast 35 prime. But I am to afraid that I am going to miss the other lengths of the zoom.

My ideal kit would be something like this (When I think about the future lenses):
14-24L | 35LII | 24-70L(II) | 85LII | 70-200LII (17-TSE would be awesome too)
But sometimes I think I could get everything done with something like this:
14-24L | 35LII | 85LII

But as I said. I am afraid that I would miss something. I don't like to have lenses which are gathering dust. But I like the idea of being able to get every shot as I want.


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Apr 27, 2013 13:05 |  #4

Bilderknipser wrote in post #15872917 (external link)
Welcome back! Interesting to read your thoughts/reasons on the re-arranging of your kit. I'm very tempted to get rid of two of my lenses (the Zeiss, sadly because for my purposes I just need the AF and it's just been sitting for months). I only ever use my 24-105 at 24 for architecture so I was playing with the thought of getting a 24L.

Thanks for the warm welcome. Your thought reminded me of a few points I was thinking about during my 2-week suspension. I added them to the post above, cheers... best of luck on your hunt for the right tools - for you!


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Apr 27, 2013 13:14 |  #5

I really like my 135L and 35L so I would have kept them. 85L and 50L are both great lenses so you cannot go wrong with either of those.

I have a 200L but it doesn't get much use now that I have the 70-200 f/2.8L II. Personally I use both primes and zooms. It all depends on what I have to shoot although I admit my 16-35L II gets almost no use. I've been looking at a Zeiss 18 or 21mm to replace it. Or maybe even a TS-E 17L but it doesn't take my Lee system so I'm not sure.

When I use my zooms 24-70L II and 70-200L I always take my 50L with them. Otherwise I have my 35/85/135L in a kit.

My 16-35L, 24L II and 200L II are getting no love so I'll probably sell them. Of course my TS-E 24L II gets lots of love when I'm doing architecture.


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Apr 27, 2013 13:20 |  #6

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Apr 27, 2013 13:24 |  #7

swldstn wrote in post #15872969 (external link)
I really like my 135L and 35L so I would have kept them. 85L and 50L are both great lenses so you cannot go wrong with either of those.

I have a 200L but it doesn't get much use now that I have the 70-200 f/2.8L II. Personally I use both primes and zooms. It all depends on what I have to shoot although I admit my 16-35L II gets almost no use. I've been looking at a Zeiss 18 or 21mm to replace it. Or maybe even a TS-E 17L but it doesn't take my Lee system so I'm not sure.

When I use my zooms 24-70L II and 70-200L I always take my 50L with them. Otherwise I have my 35/85/135L in a kit.

My 16-35L, 24L II and 200L II are getting no love so I'll probably sell them. Of course my TS-E 24L II gets lots of love when I'm doing architecture.


Wow so you have a tool shed!

70-200 2.8L ii. Probably the best zoom ever created.
I demo'd it for a week (cps) the zoom- I just couldn't stand the size.
And I wish they made a black version.

my theory is having the 85L and 135L - too close for ME, to own both.
But 85L and 200L is another story.
the 200L is quite affordable too.

Curious about your 200L.

If you didn't have the 70-200, would you use the 200 a lot more?


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Apr 27, 2013 13:37 as a reply to  @ Dj R's post |  #8

35 years ago my kit was 28mm, 50mm and 80mm :D.


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Apr 27, 2013 13:38 |  #9

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35 years ago my kit was 28mm, 50mm and 80mm :D.

what is it now?
did you sell your markins?


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Apr 27, 2013 13:53 as a reply to  @ Dj R's post |  #10

now: 16-35L II, 24-70L II, 70-300L, 100-400L + 35 f2 IS.

the markins ballhead? I gave it away on ebay for like $140 :eek:


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Apr 27, 2013 13:55 |  #11

Omg we can't be friends. Did you get a donation receipt?


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Omg we can't be friends. Did you get a donation receipt?

man I didn't even get a kiss afterwards ;). I took a pretty good hit on my gitzo GT1541 but I did buy it used at a good price and I got a great deal on its replacement, a used gitzo GT2542 (like new) from BH. so I don't feel too hosed overall :D.

BTW, is your insurance through a homeowner's policy and does it cover your equipment anywhere?


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Apr 27, 2013 16:26 |  #13

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Looks okay! But I think I will miss some focal lengths when I do something like this.

I am thinking a couple of months now from trading my 24-70L to a fast 35 prime. But I am to afraid that I am going to miss the other lengths of the zoom.

My ideal kit would be something like this (When I think about the future lenses):
14-24L | 35LII | 24-70L(II) | 85LII | 70-200LII (17-TSE would be awesome too)
But sometimes I think I could get everything done with something like this:
14-24L | 35LII | 85LII

But as I said. I am afraid that I would miss something. I don't like to have lenses which are gathering dust. But I like the idea of being able to get every shot as I want.


Do it. Your feet work right? ;)
Your abbreviated-desired threesome looks quite capable!
However two of those lenses don't exist yet, which you're aware of.
The problem will be canon's new pricing.


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Apr 27, 2013 23:54 |  #14

Went to birthday party after party this Saturday evening. Had a blast and took 200+ photos.
With only one lens, Tamron 28-75 2.8. Was going from 28 to 75 back and forth.
Here is no way I would be able to manage it with three primes. Just no time and space to dink with them.
I have two L primes, but my work horse is Tammy zoom.


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Apr 28, 2013 16:20 |  #15

Yep, Ko, a lowly zoom (28-105II) with a flash gets my vote for a lot of photography needs.


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