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Sigma 70-200 2.8 (EX APO DG HSM OS) vs. Canon 70-200/4 IS

 
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Apr 28, 2013 00:03 |  #1

This is not a purchase I will be doing for a long time but I am already planning a list of lenses I will be owning in the future. Right now I own the 18-55 kitlens and 300/f4 L IS so I want something in between them.

I love wildlife but I already have the 300 prime for that. The 70-200 will be used as a "go-to" lens when I go to football games, motorsport and other stuff like dog agility (I own a dog and love going to meetings and so on).

Now you might ask why I am not looking at the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS (Mk II perhaps?), well I am not a professional and I don't see a need to spend that kind of money on a lens that won't bring me back any money. Simple as that.

Please share your opinions, looking for replies from people who have actually used both lenses so please no "obviously Canon will be better than Sigma because I think so" bs.


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Apr 28, 2013 00:26 |  #2

Worth noting is that the dog club I'm a member of have trainings and whatnot usually at around 6-7pm so the 2.8 could really help there I assume.


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Apr 28, 2013 11:57 |  #3

I have owned both and both are great lenses!

At f4 both look identical. At f2.8 the sigma kicks the crap out of the canon ;)

But seriously, The sigma is not "tack" sharp at f2.8 like the canon f2.8 IS II but it is very usable (in between the old canon f2.8 IS and the new canon f2.8 IS II as far as IQ goes)

But The sigma is bigger and heavier then the canon f4 IS. For some that's an issue, for others it is not.

Personally I liked the sigma better. It was just as good as the canon at f4 but had the extra stop that was very useful.




  
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Apr 28, 2013 12:12 |  #4

I have the Sigma 2.8 OS. I agree with gremlin75's assessment. Keep in mind that most bodies can focus and track better with an f/2.8 lens. For moving subjects, that is essential. I've never shot the Canon f/4.




  
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Apr 28, 2013 17:05 |  #5

JohanBorjesson wrote in post #15874507 (external link)
Worth noting is that the dog club I'm a member of have trainings and whatnot usually at around 6-7pm so the 2.8 could really help there I assume.

well there is your answer :p
One stop of extra light can be a life saver in many situations. I do like Canon white lenses but f4 is just not fast enough for my taste.
btw I am surprised to see another fan of Lucky Star in this forum :D


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Apr 28, 2013 17:40 as a reply to  @ FuturamaJSP's post |  #6

I don't have experience with the 70-200 OS, but the Sigma glass I do have doesn't do as well in focusing for moving subjects as my Canon glass. They do great at one shot though. I have seen several people with experience with the 70-200 OS stating AF issues in servo here too. Based on that, I would stick with Canon. If you want to shoot action with it, the canon 70-200/2.8 non IS is a great option too.


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Apr 28, 2013 17:46 |  #7

FEChariot wrote in post #15876600 (external link)
I don't have experience with the 70-200 OS, but the Sigma glass I do have doesn't do as well in focusing for moving subjects as my Canon glass. They do great at one shot though. I have seen several people with experience with the 70-200 OS stating AF issues in servo here too. Based on that, I would stick with Canon. If you want to shoot action with it, the canon 70-200/2.8 non IS is a great option too.

I have used my Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS HSM almost exclusively in AI-Servo. It has not let me down, even once, in almost a year. I don't think mode 2 IS works very well in portrait position, but that is my only issue. I wouldn't trade this lens for a Canon non-IS version.




  
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Apr 28, 2013 18:18 |  #8

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I have used my Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS HSM almost exclusively in AI-Servo. It has not let me down, even once, in almost a year. I don't think mode 2 IS works very well in portrait position, but that is my only issue. I wouldn't trade this lens for a Canon non-IS version.

So by that statement, you are claiming 100% accuracy having never had an out of focus image?


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Apr 28, 2013 18:27 |  #9

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So by that statement, you are claiming 100% accuracy having never had an out of focus image?

Of course I've had OOF images. None I would specifically blame on the lens. It is possible to ask too much of a lens/camera combination. I shoot with a 60D mostly, and have used the Sigma on a 5D with good results. I am basically familiar with the limitations of my equipment, and don't try to get more than is possible. Perhaps someone with more talent could get even more out of my equipment. All I am claiming is that the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS HSM works for me. Jeez, I've had ONE-SHOT frames of static objects be OOF. That is generally not the fault of the lens.




  
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Apr 28, 2013 23:32 |  #10

gremlin75 wrote in post #15875655 (external link)
I have owned both and both are great lenses!

At f4 both look identical. At f2.8 the sigma kicks the crap out of the canon ;)

But seriously, The sigma is not "tack" sharp at f2.8 like the canon f2.8 IS II but it is very usable (in between the old canon f2.8 IS and the new canon f2.8 IS II as far as IQ goes)

But The sigma is bigger and heavier then the canon f4 IS. For some that's an issue, for others it is not.

Personally I liked the sigma better. It was just as good as the canon at f4 but had the extra stop that was very useful.

Yeah and they're both the same price (Sigma new vs. 70-200/4 IS used).


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Apr 28, 2013 23:33 |  #11

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well there is your answer :p
One stop of extra light can be a life saver in many situations. I do like Canon white lenses but f4 is just not fast enough for my taste.
btw I am surprised to see another fan of Lucky Star in this forum :D

Thanks, Lucky Star is great :)


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Apr 29, 2013 06:54 |  #12

How well do the Canon 70-200/2.8 L IS (version 1) fare against the Sigma? I'm pretty set on 2.8 because it will always come in handy and I don't like to buy a lens, be unhappy with it just to sell it off and get a better one.


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Apr 29, 2013 07:12 |  #13

JohanBorjesson wrote in post #15878254 (external link)
How well do the Canon 70-200/2.8 L IS (version 1) fare against the Sigma? I'm pretty set on 2.8 because it will always come in handy and I don't like to buy a lens, be unhappy with it just to sell it off and get a better one.

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gremlin75 wrote in post #15875655 (external link)
I have owned both and both are great lenses!

At f4 both look identical. At f2.8 the sigma kicks the crap out of the canon ;)

But seriously, The sigma is not "tack" sharp at f2.8 like the canon f2.8 IS II but it is very usable (in between the old canon f2.8 IS and the new canon f2.8 IS II as far as IQ goes)

But The sigma is bigger and heavier then the canon f4 IS. For some that's an issue, for others it is not.

Personally I liked the sigma better. It was just as good as the canon at f4 but had the extra stop that was very useful.


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Apr 29, 2013 07:14 |  #14

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Sorry, didn't see that.


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Apr 29, 2013 07:41 |  #15

Can anyone comment on a comparison of the Sigma with the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8?




  
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