I am looking for a picture style that will give me a 'raw' look(like the videos came from the blackmagic)
I've never used one of the flat looking profiles. so what does everyone use, and why?
AAphotog Senior Member 828 posts Likes: 3 Joined Apr 2012 More info | May 01, 2013 19:25 | #1  Permanent banI am looking for a picture style that will give me a 'raw' look(like the videos came from the blackmagic) 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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charrocallado Goldmember  1,144 posts Likes: 3 Joined Mar 2008 Location: PA More info | May 01, 2013 19:47 | #2 AAphotog wrote in post #15888386  I am looking for a picture style that will give me a 'raw' look(like the videos came from the blackmagic) I've never used one of the flat looking profiles. so what does everyone use, and why? You're never going to get a blackmagic look from a flat dslr profile...8 bit 4:2:0 pretty much gives you a well defined ceiling for your maximum image quality and dynamic range. When I use my 5d for weddings or whatever I usually just set the contrast all the way down. I think the superflat profiles out there actually do more harm than good, but that's just me.
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I've not used this (yet) but, it seems really good.
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May 01, 2013 20:11 | #4 Permanent banI don't recall which profile it was, but I've seen videos and photos taken on the 5d2 with flat profiles that looked to be quite close to the raw black magic files. Now, of course you get more latitude and everything else with the BM, but it looked quite similar. Really really flaaaaaaat 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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charrocallado Goldmember 1,144 posts Likes: 3 Joined Mar 2008 Location: PA More info | May 01, 2013 20:27 | #5 AAphotog wrote in post #15888537 I don't recall which profile it was, but I've seen videos and photos taken on the 5d2 with flat profiles that looked to be quite close to the raw black magic files. Now, of course you get more latitude and everything else with the BM, but it looked quite similar. Really really flaaaaaaat Be careful of the quest for "flat." It's not the holy grail you might think. The raw files out of the bmcc are actually very contrasty until they are graded. A NOTE ABOUT USING FLAT PICTURE STYLES: The purpose of using a flat picture style while shooting video is useful if you plan to color grade the footage in post production. The picture style is not intended to be used as an in-camera method of color. You will notice that the Crooked Path Flat picture style will make the image very de-contrasted. This is done by editing the gamma curve to record detail in the shadows and the highlights that would normally be lost. This gives you ultimate latitude in post for color grading a beautiful finished movie. BE CAREFUL! There are some downsides to using ANY flat picture style. If you planning on adding some serious contrast, you will notice noise and artifacts in areas that have a gradient texture like sky or walls. You will see a phenomena commonly referred to as “banding,” which is essentially the artifacting in the compressed H264 codec being ENHANCED…which is not good. What is happening when you shoot flat… is the compression creates, for example, 15 steps or shades in a gradient instead of 40 that would normally be there if you shot with the NEUTRAL picture profile. So when you grade this flat video and add contrast, the software doesn’t add more “steps” to the gradient bumping it back up to 40…instead it just contrasts the 15 steps that were recorded. This creates a more drastic difference beetween step 1 and 2, and 2 and 3, and so on. The result is enhanced artifacts and “banding.”
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May 01, 2013 20:58 | #6 Permanent banAnyone have a download link for cinestyle? Im on an excruciatingly slow internet connection and it seems to be very hard to find a download link right now(even tried the technicolor website to no avail) 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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May 01, 2013 21:23 | #7 AAphotog wrote in post #15888699 Anyone have a download link for cinestyle? Im on an excruciatingly slow internet connection and it seems to be very hard to find a download link right now(even tried the technicolor website to no avail) Really???
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May 01, 2013 22:15 | #8 Permanent banI did! I dont understand what that has to do with me wanting to try the style for myself. I asked for a link, are you telling me in spite of what I want to do with MY camera that I can't get it??? 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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JohnSims Goldmember  1,437 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2006 Location: Essex & Gower UK More info | May 02, 2013 02:03 | #9 While I would certainly try it I agree with the above comments of caution. It can be very difficult to get Cinestyle back to an agreeable image in the edit. This can render the footage almost unusable in some cases. Skin tones seem to suffer most (perhaps because of the reduction in gradient information as noted above) making your subject look as if they have a skin complaint as you try to grade back. John Sims
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May 02, 2013 08:04 | #10 Permanent banI appreciate the caution, but if I were to have a job, I certainly wouldn't go in using a picture style the first time. I would like to do some tests. If I find it to work great for me, GREAT! If the test shots come out horrible, it gets deleted. 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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May 02, 2013 09:00 | #11 AAphotog wrote in post #15888928 I did! I dont understand what that has to do with me wanting to try the style for myself. I asked for a link, are you telling me in spite of what I want to do with MY camera that I can't get it??? smh The link you requested is in my post.
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Scatterbrained Cream of the Crop  8,511 posts Gallery: 267 photos Best ofs: 12 Likes: 4607 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan More info | May 02, 2013 09:05 | #12 Give the magic lantern guys a bit of time and it may no longer be an issue, since they're working on raw video output right now. . . . . . . . VanillaImaging.com
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May 02, 2013 09:30 | #13 Permanent banI MUST be blind. I don't even see a link in your post. I see a link in Charro's post and its for a "crooked flat" picture style, not cinestyle. I think I'm tripping... I'll just figure it out when I get to better Internet. 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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May 02, 2013 09:31 | #14 Permanent banScatterbrained wrote in post #15889964 Give the magic lantern guys a bit of time and it may no longer be an issue, since they're working on raw video output right now. . . . . . . . We can only hope for the best. But as of now, thing aren't looking to good for recording bigger clips. 5d3, 50mm 1.4, 70-200mm F4 L, 17-40mm F4 L
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May 02, 2013 10:32 | #15 AAphotog wrote in post #15890029 I MUST be blind. I don't even see a link in your post. I see a link in Charro's post and its for a "crooked flat" picture style, not cinestyle. I think I'm tripping... I'll just figure it out when I get to better Internet. Place your cursor over the words "Technicolor CineStyle
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