Protection filter + lee grad filters

Maybe a noob question but I was wondering if you can use the cheap 5 dollar tiffen UV protection filters in combination with the square lee filters.

On their site it shows that it has an adapter ring to connect the filter holder to the lens so Im guessing you cannot have a protection filter on at the same time?

Im looking for some kind of lens protection that I dont have to put on and take off every time I want to use the lee filters is this even possible or what are the other options?

You can, but I'd recommend taking that Tiffen filter off anyhow as they've been known to hurt IQ.
I normally will have a CPL on the lens and then attach my filter holder to it's outside threads. Unless your UV filter is a thin mount it should have a threaded front for stacking filters.

Just leave the protection filter off. They dont actually protect anything and often cause more damage.

AndyWahl wrote in post #15897647
Maybe a noob question but I was wondering if you can use the cheap 5 dollar tiffen UV protection filters in combination with the square lee filters.

On their site it shows that it has an adapter ring to connect the filter holder to the lens so Im guessing you cannot have a protection filter on at the same time?

Im looking for some kind of lens protection that I dont have to put on and take off every time I want to use the lee filters is this even possible or what are the other options?

You will get a lot of people on this site that will say skip any filter as a protector. If you do choose to use a protective filter, almost nobody will suggest a cheapo filter, as it will make adversely affect the IQ of a lens. If you are going to use a protective filter get a top filter like the higher end Hoya or B+W.

As for the Lee filter system, there are adapter rings you get for the size filter thread, then the filter holder goes on the adapter. So as long your filter has threads (most do, but some thin versions do not) and everything is not so far forward that you get too much vignetting - the system will work with a protective filter.

RobDickinson wrote in post #15897687
Just leave the protection filter off. They dont actually protect anything and often cause more damage.

Damage how?

I just cant fathom getting a scratch or chip from a rock or debris on a $2000 lens as I will be shooting things such as cars or action sports or some kind of sand while doing landscape photos

AndyWahl wrote in post #15897730
Damage how?

I just cant fathom getting a scratch or chip from a rock or debris on a $2000 lens as I will be shooting things such as cars or action sports or some kind of sand while doing landscape photos

So you would instead put a cheap, low quality $5 filter on a $2,000 lens? That defeats the purpose of buying a high quality lens.

AndyWahl wrote in post #15897730
Damage how?

I just cant fathom getting a scratch or chip from a rock or debris on a $2000 lens as I will be shooting things such as cars or action sports or some kind of sand while doing landscape photos

The UV filter will break faster than your lens will chip, and when it does it will scratch the bejeebus out of your lens. http://www.youtube.com …er_embedded&v=v​zOLbMPe0u8

Yes. FIlters break much easier than lenses and that broken sharp glass can scratch your lens. Also the damaged filter thread can get stuck on your lens requiring a tricky removal that can cause further damage.

RobDickinson wrote in post #15897810
Yes. FIlters break much easier than lenses and that broken sharp glass can scratch your lens. Also the damaged filter thread can get stuck on your lens requiring a tricky removal that can cause further damage.

There are definite conditions under which a protection filter is useful. I shoot a lot of rodeos up close and rocks are flying when the animals are close. I've broken a few UV filters in my time by flying rocks. Guaranteed these rocks would have at the very least put a nick into my lens and at the worst, cracked the lens.

I also use a UV filter in the desert with a lot of fine blowing sand that gets stuck to the filter. I quickly replace the UV filter with another and keep on shooting without having to carefully clean a front element. The same goes for shooting at the ocean with a lot of blowing sea mist. Just change the UV filter and keep on shooting.

Lots of uses for the UV filter.

wow!, 5 dollar filter infront of a 2000 dollar lense! Its like : your got yourself a new ferrai with a V12 engine, you rip out the engine and replace It with a ford fiesta 1.2L engine

Hogloff wrote in post #15898278
There are definite conditions under which a protection filter is useful. I shoot a lot of rodeos up close and rocks are flying when the animals are close. I've broken a few UV filters in my time by flying rocks. Guaranteed these rocks would have at the very least put a nick into my lens and at the worst, cracked the lens.

I also use a UV filter in the desert with a lot of fine blowing sand that gets stuck to the filter. I quickly replace the UV filter with another and keep on shooting without having to carefully clean a front element. The same goes for shooting at the ocean with a lot of blowing sea mist. Just change the UV filter and keep on shooting.

Lots of uses for the UV filter.

Yes,I'll admit there are some times when you may want to use a filter. Make sure its a decent one though!

Hogloff wrote in post #15898278
There are definite conditions under which a protection filter is useful. I shoot a lot of rodeos up close and rocks are flying when the animals are close. I've broken a few UV filters in my time by flying rocks. Guaranteed these rocks would have at the very least put a nick into my lens and at the worst, cracked the lens.

I also use a UV filter in the desert with a lot of fine blowing sand that gets stuck to the filter. I quickly replace the UV filter with another and keep on shooting without having to carefully clean a front element. The same goes for shooting at the ocean with a lot of blowing sea mist. Just change the UV filter and keep on shooting.

Lots of uses for the UV filter.

but let's be honest...you can't guarantee that the rocks would effect the front element at all...

show me one instance where a rock did damage to a front element...and not a dropped lens...but an actual rock hitting it...or sand hitting it, and causing a scratch, chip, crack...anything...

protection filters are for peace of mind...they don't guarantee anything...but they make people feel better...if you need one, get a good one...don't get a cheap one

DreDaze wrote in post #15898804
protection filters are for peace of mind

Actually, I thought they were for generting a living for camera shop salesmen -

"OK, sir has made an excellent decision to purchase the $2000 super-dooper lens (thinks: On which I make $10 profit). Now sir really needs to protect his investment with a good quality protective filter. This one is only $50 and, as sir can see, is digital! (Yeah, that should be $45 profit for me.)"

DreDaze wrote in post #15898804
but let's be honest...you can't guarantee that the rocks would effect the front element at all...

show me one instance where a rock did damage to a front element...and not a dropped lens...but an actual rock hitting it...or sand hitting it, and causing a scratch, chip, crack...anything...

protection filters are for peace of mind...they don't guarantee anything...but they make people feel better...if you need one, get a good one...don't get a cheap one

A rock that cracks a filter would definitely at the very least scratch the front element. I cannot show you since I used a protection filter in these conditions to actually protect the lens.

I've seen fine scratches on many lens most likely caused by trying to clean the glass when there were fine dust or even sand on the glass.

If you don't shoot in harsh environments then you don't need a protection filter. If you do shoot in environments that can cause damage, I suggest using them. Of course each has to determine their own risk tolerance.

RobDickinson wrote in post #15897687
Just leave the protection filter off. They dont actually protect anything and often cause more damage.

you ever seen lens for sale on this sight!some of them have a nick or scuff marks on there front element ,gess why,no lens filter,if you keep the filer clean they do not degrade the photo in any way.