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May 12, 2013 15:19 |  #1
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Go Magic Lantern!!!

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May 12, 2013 20:04 |  #2

Holy crap....


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May 12, 2013 20:13 |  #3

Wow...for the ones with a 5D3 that shoot video.




  
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May 12, 2013 20:16 |  #4
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Elfstop wrote in post #15925589 (external link)
Wow...for the ones with a 5D3 that shoot video.

Will most likely work for the 5d2 as well as the 6D


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May 13, 2013 11:54 as a reply to  @ AAphotog's post |  #5

You think so? That is one of the main deciding factors on whether I get the 6D or the 5DMKiii. IF this does come to the 6D I will be sold on my decision.


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May 13, 2013 11:56 |  #6

AAphotog wrote in post #15925595 (external link)
Will most likely work for the 5d2 as well as the 6D

right now it's only on the 5D3, but we can hope. If they can get continuous 1080p out on the 5D2 I'd be stoked. Then I can have the most overprocessed home movies EVAR!:lol:


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May 13, 2013 12:37 |  #7
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Scatterbrained wrote in post #15927566 (external link)
right now it's only on the 5D3, but we can hope. If they can get continuous 1080p out on the 5D2 I'd be stoked. Then I can have the most overprocessed home movies EVAR!:lol:

this is incorrect. They've got members at the ML forums that have it working on other cameras. Cameras that only accept SD cards. Problem is, the SD cards aren't fast enough to really keep up with the write speeds. Never the less, it is working.... to a degree


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May 13, 2013 12:40 |  #8
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Heres one comment.

I just tested on my 600d and I'm getting continuous shooting at 720x480 on a very under-performing SD card


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May 13, 2013 21:37 |  #9

Yeah the problem is that SD card storage isn't fast enough. CF is. Which means it may work on the 7D reasonably well, but full-HD to an SD-card camera is a problem as you can't get the data on the card fast enough.


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May 14, 2013 06:43 |  #10

Hah, well its not as though you get a true 1080p from the camera in the first place.

If they could spit out raw files at the same resolution the camera upsamples from on the 5d2, that would be a marvel in itself.

I've got to laugh at how pitiful Canon's HMDI out firmware update is, then some guys bodging around in the firmware manage something out of left field like this.

Canon really need to sack a whole bunch of people and poach some people from the cell phone industry or something, where there's actually incentive to innovate.




  
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May 14, 2013 06:50 |  #11

Um, if you read what the ML folks managed to pull off, now it is.

That's the breakthrough; they are able to grab a center-crop of the sensor that is in fact 1080p. The problem with doing it is that once you have the data you have to be able to dump it fast enough to keep the buffer from overflowing, and the only cards that can do that are CF cards. SDs, at least at present, simply aren't fast enough to keep up on the write side.

The surprise is that the 5d3 is actually capable of it; the assumption everyone had was that the camera simply wasn't fast enough to read a 1080p bitrate off the sensor and "put" it somewhere at the required rate of speed. Thus all the game-playing in the firmware and the fact that you didn't really get 1080 output -- until now.


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May 14, 2013 09:12 |  #12
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romanv wrote in post #15930280 (external link)
Hah, well its not as though you get a true 1080p from the camera in the first place.

If they could spit out raw files at the same resolution the camera upsamples from on the 5d2, that would be a marvel in itself.

I've got to laugh at how pitiful Canon's HMDI out firmware update is, then some guys bodging around in the firmware manage something out of left field like this.

Canon really need to sack a whole bunch of people and poach some people from the cell phone industry or something, where there's actually incentive to innovate.

Go do some reading


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May 14, 2013 09:22 |  #13

romanv wrote in post #15930280 (external link)
Hah, well its not as though you get a true 1080p from the camera in the first place.

If they could spit out raw files at the same resolution the camera upsamples from on the 5d2, that would be a marvel in itself.

I've got to laugh at how pitiful Canon's HMDI out firmware update is, then some guys bodging around in the firmware manage something out of left field like this.

Canon really need to sack a whole bunch of people and poach some people from the cell phone industry or something, where there's actually incentive to innovate.

When you have stopped laughing, you might consider the difference between the skills of the Canon developers (who just might be the same developers who implements the video functionality on their professional video cameras) and what product management decides that they may implement.

Realize that it isn't the engineers skills but product management who decides how to split the market, i.e. what features that should separate the different camera models. Canon don't want their DSLR to get too close to their professional video cameras since they are in a different niche with a totally different price.

That is the main reason why we need stiff competition, so the product managers will feel a pressure to keep up, instead of just deciding on extremely high prices in the belief that a Canon is unique and not suffering from competition.


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May 14, 2013 09:38 |  #14

Getting a center crop at full HD is great.

Now we just have to wait until Canon releases new hardware that is fast enough to do a full-sensor read at full video speed, allowing antialiazing by on-the-fly downscale to 1080. That would mean they could make do with much weaker low-pass filters on the sensor, and would mean that both video and stills would get better quality.

But as owner of a 5D2, I right now hold my thumbs :)


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May 14, 2013 13:07 |  #15

There's no value to that in a still camera.


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