Just got my YN560III, considering a second.

After years of "not really needing" a speedlight, I finally found myself at a point where I should stop ignoring the fact that my work would significantly benefit from utilizing off camera flash.

So, I've made the plunge and ordered a Yongnuo YN-560III, RF-602 transmitter, basic light stand, and an umbrella. My work, as of recently, consists mostly of product photography and the occasional shoot with a model in a small studio. On the rarest of days I'll be shooting outdoors.

My question is, what should I consider as my second speedlight? I've read really great things about Yongnuo's new YN-568ex and the RF-622c transceiver. I suppose my conundrum is determining whether or not I feel like HSS/ETTL is a necessity for me. I know it really comes dow to personal preference and a decision I will need to make for myself, depending on my forecasted needs, but just wondered if anyone here had any insight or experience that I should consider before going for it or just picking up another YN-560III.

Thanks in advance!

I'd just pick up another YN-560. Or even a Bee for that kinda work. Shorter recycle times with larger modifiers.

ssuperdreww wrote in post #15931452
.My work, as of recently, consists mostly of product photography and the occasional shoot with a model in a small studio.

Those you don't need ETTL or HSS

ssuperdreww wrote in post #15931452
On the rarest of days I'll be shooting outdoors.

Depending on when you shoot HSS might be useful.

I'd say use the 560 more. If you find yourself needing faster shutter speeds then your max ss then get the 568ex. If not then no need spending extra money on features you may not need.

Don't get me wrong, having an ETTL flash is very useful and I think everyone should have at least one flash that can do both ETTL and manual. But the two are completely different beasts and require different knowladge sets. But again ETTL isn't alwasyx needed so if you truly don't need it why spend money on it?

Actually, to me, getting a YN-568 and YN-622c triggers for off-camera lighting isn't really about TTL or HSS, although they're nice to have (along with 2nd curtain sync and MULTI mode). It's about remote commanding. Being able to remotely adjust the power levels and other settings on your flashes without having to walk up to them rocks. It's the main reason most of us go for the combo.

The thing is, that your 560 and 602s can't really be worked into the system if that's what you're going for. The 560 is manual only and is not camera-menu-commandable, and the 602 will have to be stacked on top of the 622c's hotshoe to trigger the 560iii.

i learned manual flash in the 80's. Worked just fine.

i used my old nikon flash with my XSi for a couple of years in both manual mode and in auto mode, letting it decide how much light to throw out. I have also used it and a few other old flashes on and off camera for small product photography in my "studio".

i got a sweet deal on a practically brand new 580EXII a few months ago. I've used HSS once, and ETTL quite a bit. I am very happy to have them at my disposal.

Sounds like you're as old school as I am, but I think you'll get use out of ETTL

cheers!

v35skyline wrote in post #15931887
I'd just pick up another YN-560.

That's what I've been leaning towards, now that I think about it. Thanks for the input!

gremlin75 wrote in post #15932659
Those you don't need ETTL or HSS... But again ETTL isn't alwasyx needed so if you truly don't need it why spend money on it?

Agreed, thanks for clearing that up for me!

inkista wrote in post #15932801
Actually, to me, getting a YN-568 and YN-622c triggers for off-camera lighting isn't really about TTL or HSS, although they're nice to have (along with 2nd curtain sync and MULTI mode). It's about remote commanding.

That makes sense. I'm still trying to educate myself on this off-camera flash business, haha Thanks for helping me understand a little more!

hes gone wrote in post #15932817
=he's gone;15932817]i learned manual flash in the 80's. Worked just fine...
Sounds like you're as old school as I am, but I think you'll get use out of ETTL.

Haha! Yep, you got me! I suppose alot of it has to do with the way I've learned so far and natural frugalness, which isn't always necessarily a good thing

I just wrote a little bit about mixing the YN-560 III and YN-622C in the YN-560 III review here -

http://flashhavoc.com …-yn-560-iii-review/#YN622

I think a lot of people will be mixing these systems, simply because of the extra cost involved in the ETTL flash and triggers. Its very handy to have at least one or 2 of those, but beyond that it becomes hard choice if you know you only use manual most of the time for the other flashes.

To add to that, I think there is a high possibility the YN-560 III has remote power built in already waiting for a new transmitter. In which case I think that will make the decision harder again, but many will still be mixing the two systems.


Also to add its not just cost either, all manual is super reliable, its even more reliable now the receiver is built into the YN-560 III flash body, no cords or shoe connections to add issues. The YN-622C are not major problems, but they do have some hiccups, times when you don't need the extra features the manual system can be an advantage.
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So, to pose a painfully embarrassing followup question, if I were to decide to just go manual and pick up another YN-560III, will I need to grab receivers for these bad boys? At this point I have the first 560 and a 602 transmitter coming in the mail. And, if i understand correctly, the 560s will both fire in slave mode using the 602 transmitter due to the 2.4G radio receivers built in, correct?

From Yongnuo:
"What is the difference with YN 560 II? The YN 560 II supports RX salve mode.

RX salve flash mode can be selected though pressing down button [Triggering Mode]. The slave flash mode is transmitted by 2.4G radio, respeciively supporting YONGNUO wireless trigger RF-602, RF-603. Choose to support the RF-602 or RF-603 triggering through the Advanced Options settings, provided with 16 channels(CH1-CH16). Just set the YN560-III and RF-602,RF-603 to the same channel wireless flash can be realized in using. "

Again, it took me a while to muster enough courage to hit that Submit Reply button. I know it's such a simple concept, but I'm not completely clear, and, considering the wait time from Yongnuo, I want to make sure my orders are right the first time. Thanks again for everyone's help already. It's very much appreciated.

elv wrote in post #15933331
Also to add its not just cost either, all manual is super reliable, its even more reliable now the receiver is built into the YN-560 III flash body, no cords or shoe connections to add issues.

Haha! That has to be the fastest reply in history. Thanks so much! I'll read through that review immediately. Thank you again for the info!