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Jan 18, 2006 12:21 |  #1

Hi all, after reading the stickies for this forum i still cant find what i am looking for?With the canon Digital Photo Professional i cant sharpen an individual photo only a whole batch at a time. the option isnt there! Is this because it was with my 20d and is not the full version? It seems a nice program if i could sharpen individual pics. does anyone know anything about this program or can you recommend a good programme. i shoot macro shots and sharpening and saturation are my main goals. thanks for any help, Jerry


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Jan 18, 2006 12:35 |  #2

The newest version lets you sharpen individual shots. Go to Canon's download library and get version 2.0.3.


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Jan 18, 2006 12:38 |  #3

Many thanks curtis


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Jan 18, 2006 13:12 |  #4

I have looked through canons site and cannot find a download for the new version( am i just thick or what) i saw a program explaining about the new download but cant get to it?


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Jan 18, 2006 14:39 |  #5

Canon doesn't exactly make it easy.
I started with the download library at canonusa.com
Entered the info - camera model and such
Then you get to a page where you have two choices - drivers/software or product/software manuals. Click on drivers/software.
After you approve the license agreement, you get to a page with instructions and links to both DPP and the manual for it in pdf format.
Good luck!


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Jan 18, 2006 16:03 |  #6

Many thanks curtis, ive done it, cheers for the info, Jerry


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Jan 18, 2006 16:43 |  #7

No problem.

DPP sometimes gets a bad rap around here, but I think it's a pretty good converter, especially considering the price.

I paid for Raw Shooter Premium, and it's an outstanding piece of software. But there is still a pretty long list of things that DPP will do and RSP won't. I still use DPP sometimes, and I recommend it for anyone just starting out with RAW files.


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Jan 18, 2006 16:49 as a reply to  @ Curtis N's post |  #8

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No problem.

DPP sometimes gets a bad rap around here, but I think it's a pretty good converter, especially considering the price.

I paid for Raw Shooter Premium, and it's an outstanding piece of software. But there is still a pretty long list of things that DPP will do and RSP won't. I still use DPP sometimes, and I recommend it for anyone just starting out with RAW files.

Curtis, I have DPP and admit to hardly ever using it (never in fact!) What does it do that RSE/RSP does not? Perhaps I shouldplay with it....


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Jan 18, 2006 18:23 as a reply to  @ EOSAddict's post |  #9

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Curtis, I have DPP and admit to hardly ever using it (never in fact!) What does it do that RSE/RSP does not? Perhaps I shouldplay with it....

I would say it's certainly worth a look although it's very different in workflow to RSE/P. The picture styles are very useful as is the ability to play with the tonal curve.

I've found that RSE/P still does some filtering even with all the noise/sharpen/detail sliders at 0/-50/-50 which can create banding, esp. in OOF areas. DPP doesn't have any noise reduction and keeps much more detail as a result (see attached examples).

Perhaps another plus is that DPP doesn't have any auto correction so it's a good way of learning how to process raw files.


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Jan 18, 2006 21:57 |  #10

Things to like about DPP vs. RSE:

1)If you have a dual monitor system, you can undock the tool pallettes and move them to the second monitor, allowing you to view images full-screen while editing.
2)DPP handles JPEG and TIFF files, not just RAW. And you can batch process all of them, such as resizing for web, convert from TIFF to JPEG, etc.
3)DPP will batch resize a mess of differently-sized images to the same size
4)DPP automatically adjusts RAW images according to camera parameters for sharpness, contrast and saturation (you may or may not like this).
5)DPP provides MUCH more EXIF information than RSE - Date/time, metering mode, EC, FEC, flash, WB, AF mode, drive mode, etc.
6)You can crop with DPP (trimming tool)
7)You can clone with DPP (stamp tool)

Bear in mind, there are also many things that RSE will do, that DPP won't. So sometimes it's a matter of choosing the right tool for the job.


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Jan 19, 2006 02:37 |  #11

Thanks curtis. I had a quick play last night and one thing that I didn't like about DPP is that it changes the origianl RAW file (so it appears to me) whereas in RSE it saves each change in a .rws file and keeps the orig intact.

I must say I have never seen any banding in RSE pxl8. Although from the 2 crops you posted, DPP does appear better. You can always turn off RSE sharpening when you process.


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Jan 19, 2006 04:15 as a reply to  @ EOSAddict's post |  #12

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Thanks curtis. I had a quick play last night and one thing that I didn't like about DPP is that it changes the origianl RAW file (so it appears to me) whereas in RSE it saves each change in a .rws file and keeps the orig intact.

DPP stores the changes with the file but doesn't destroy the shot settings. In the adjustment menu you can choose to restore shot settings or last saved. You can also save the recipe files seperately if you want.

I must say I have never seen any banding in RSE pxl8. Although from the 2 crops you posted, DPP does appear better. You can always turn off RSE sharpening when you process.

The RSE example was saved with sharpening turned off. I think it's more do with the noise reduction which you don't seem to be able to completely turn off.


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Jan 19, 2006 15:04 as a reply to  @ pxl8's post |  #13

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DPP stores the changes with the file but doesn't destroy the shot settings. In the adjustment menu you can choose to restore shot settings or last saved. You can also save the recipe files seperately if you want.

But in that case DPP changes the time stamp of the raw file. I know not many people would care but i prefer the original time stamp as a reference of when the picture was taken. It makes it easier, at least for me, to search through a pile of raw files for something taken back in November for example.


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Jan 19, 2006 17:00 |  #14

Interesting point and not one I'd considered. I import my raw files straight into folders for year/month/shoot so I never worry about finding them by date.


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Jan 20, 2006 05:22 |  #15

I always save the DPP "recipe" settings to a separate file in a Recipes folder (from the Edit menu) and click "no" when asked if I want to save when closing the program. It means a couple more clicks but the net result is the same as RSE/P. OTOH, I find the workflow much faster sand more intuitive in DPP. And oh yes, the color is great.
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