Has the privacy line been crossed?

golfecho wrote in post #15941086
NY photographer feels that whatever he can see from his window is fair game? Even inside the private apartments of the neighbors?

http://www.dailymail.c​o.uk …prints-7-500-dollars.html

This resembles Rear Window, a 1954 Alfred Hitchcock movie starring James Stewart. It's instructive to review what happens to the photographer in that film.

nathancarter wrote in post #15941248
Does one really expect privacy when all the windows and curtains are open?

Precisely. This is a common sense issue. Where is the common sense?

Not in here, or the article, or any of the photo's subject's minds.

They're worried about the professional artists/photographer taking pictures of their kids...what about the pedophile one door down, or the sociopath one floor above? The photos that aren't published and purposely include faces.

Use common sense and close the blinds, because the photos worth worrying about, aren't being taken by this guy.

Yeah, this is bad!

It boils down to "expectation of Privacy" in your home. those are usually interpreted on a state by state basis. Do you have any expectation of privacy in your own home, even with the blinds/curtains open?

Privacy matters in the US are state court issues, but state courts have ruled that, for instance, persons in a booth in a restaurant have an expectation of privacy, even though the restaurant is clearly a public area.

Laws against voyeurism, though, don't always depend on the individual being recognizable.

He'd probably be doing a perp walk by now if he were in Texas.

Typical wording (in this case, Pennsylvania):

The loophole here seems to be that a person can spy on others as much as he wants, as long as he owns the property he's sitting on.

koala yummies wrote in post #15941774
They're worried about the professional artists/photographer taking pictures of their kids...what about the pedophile one door down, or the sociopath one floor above? The photos that aren't published and purposely include faces.

All illegal, at least here in Texas.

-F

Expectation of privacy. Use common sense, even in Texas. If 25 peoples apartments can view into yours and you leave the blinds on your floor to ceiling widows open, then there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, close the blinds, and maybe open your eyes.

koala yummies wrote in post #15942148
Expectation of privacy. Use common sense, even in Texas. If 25 peoples apartments can view into yours and you leave the blinds on your floor to ceiling widows open, then there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, close the blinds, and maybe open your eyes.

The Texas law is very similar to the PA law that I quoted. It would be illegal to be peeping through other people's windows, and if you photographed such activities, the photographs themselves would be prima facie evidence against you.

why anybody would even want to go see this nonsense - let alone pay for it - is a mystery to me, but then, some moron just paid almost $2million for a mediocre painting of some actress as invented topless by the "artist" LOL

I close my blinds as soon as the light goes down, nobody's business what I do inside and nothing to see in the dark yard. I'd probably leave them more open in a high rise with some city scape view. Fully expecting at least one perv with a scope watching. That anybody would find that interesting enough to take a picture of and then somebody else considers them great art, worthy of an exhibit in NY, that sure would tickle me.

Now, I'd be curious, in those laws and states mentioned above, what about an occupant walking around naked in full view? Or having sex? Is that still considered a private thing then, or would the cops come ring at the door for indecent exposure?

Funny how this is going viral, probably the reason the "artist" did this, get their name out. At least I don't see even the smallest amount of artistry in these. eye of the beholder I guess

Not showing faces isn't a good enough defense against a charge of invading privacy when you consider that some people were able to identify themselves in the photos. Maybe their friends and neighbors can identify them by their clothing and general body build, too.

I thought the photos at the link were well done artistically, but that isn't the point.

Read the law--there is no proviso "unless the occupants are nude." In fact, the Texas law has even further provisions that make it a greater offense if the persons seen happen to be nude. At that point it rises from being merely voyeurism to a sex crime.

...well since he had to use a telephoto to get the shots, that is not the same thing as you looking out through your window and seeing everything...and that can easily be seen as intrusive, and even the experts say it would be hard...though not impossible to file charges against him. Sorry, but its guys like that that give the rest of us a bad name, and we get unfairly lumped into the same category.

What's legal is rather beside the point to me. This is pretty rude behavior, and his self-important justifications are simply bizarre.

You don't have a reasonable expectation to privacy if you're walking around with the drapes open.

elrey2375 wrote in post #15944208
You don't have a reasonable expectation to privacy if you're walking around with the drapes open.

According to the law, you might.