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May 25, 2013 14:05 as a reply to  @ post 15966462 |  #91

Its actually a felony in Tennessee,,,,,are you sure your a law enforcement investigator ??


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May 25, 2013 14:34 |  #92

umphotography wrote in post #15966462 (external link)
If you want to pretend to be a criminal investigator for your state,, then you should read this... Simple google search... pretty obvious your blowing smoke up everyones rear end....... I do know what i am talking about


http://law.justia.com …pter-13/part-6/39-13-605/ (external link)

I am not an investigator for my state...just for the county I work in..AND we will not arrest someone just because you want us to. Nor will we arrest ANYONE you have a problem with...what we will do on misdemeanors is refer you to the County Court Clerk and if they fill it's warranted THEY will issue a criminal summons..a ticket..then the Sheriff Dept. (where I work) will call the defendant and have them come in a be cited to court...no arrest. Our Judges enacted this so that frivolous arrests by complaining citizens are kept to a minimum. Including peeping toms. This puts the obligation in court on the public.


And this on that link you posted..."when the individual is in a place where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy" . Close your shades.




  
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May 25, 2013 14:35 |  #93

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I got news for you guys. I was a sworn law enforcement gang & narcotics Police officer in LA for 10 yrs before I was forced to retire due to injury. I know very well what the laws are and are not. These search and seizure laws are very explicit, case law is very specific, and public policy dictates how they must be followed. The DA will file every time. Law enforcement can and will step around these laws is cases of public safety or if someones life is in eminent danger.The patriot act is based on these premise' as well....there is no expectation of privacy for these emergent circumstances. But, you better have your ducks in order to back up your actions. If you trump up some BS probable cause you will get your a$$ handed to you on a silver platter. I have been there and done that numerous times and they all have been convicted.

I will direct you to California penal code 647 (J) for your review. I am very sure Indiana and other states have similar statue in place for these types of crimes

http://law.onecle.com/​california/penal/647.h​tml (external link)

Here is the statue


Any person who looks through a hole or opening, into, or
otherwise views, by means of any instrumentality, including, but not
limited to, a periscope, telescope, binoculars, camera, motion
picture camera, camcorder, or mobile phone, the interior of a
bedroom, bathroom, changing room, fitting room, dressing room, or
tanning booth, or the interior of any other area in which the
occupant has a reasonable expectation of privacy, with the intent to
invade the privacy of a person or persons inside. This subdivision
shall not apply to those areas of a private business used to count
currency or other negotiable instruments.
(2) Any person who uses a concealed camcorder, motion picture
camera, or photographic camera of any type, to secretly videotape,
film, photograph, or record by electronic means, another,
identifiable person under or through the clothing being worn by that
other person, for the purpose of viewing the body of, or the
undergarments worn by, that other person, without the consent or
knowledge of that other person, with the intent to arouse, appeal to,
or gratify the lust, passions, or sexual desires of that person and
invade the privacy of that other person, under circumstances in which
the other person has a reasonable expectation of privacy.
(3) (A) Any person who uses a concealed camcorder, motion picture
camera, or photographic camera of any type, to secretly videotape,
film, photograph, or record by electronic means, another,
identifiable person who may be in a state of full or partial undress,
for the purpose of viewing the body of, or the undergarments worn
by, that other person, without the consent or knowledge of that other
person, in the interior of a bedroom, bathroom, changing room,
fitting room, dressing room, or tanning booth, or the interior of any
other area in which that other person has a reasonable expectation
of privacy, with the intent to invade the privacy of that other
person.


This is a crime. Anyone in law enforcement would know this. Im very surprised the DA in this state did not pursue charges against this photographer.

Obvious you have NEVER been a sworn officer...maybe a reserve or something. Being a mediocre copy and paste warrior don't make you a cop. Also you should know by reading a lot as you have that laws differ and the DA sets the standards for his district...for example: I would not charge anyone for carrying a gun for the purpose of going armed, unless they are a criminal. The DA is ok with that....so is my Sheriff.

Point is here it's different....close your blinds if you want privacy.




  
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May 25, 2013 14:46 |  #94

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Its actually a felony in Tennessee,,,,,are you sure your a law enforcement investigator ??

As sure as you "think" you are a photographer.




  
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May 25, 2013 15:10 |  #95

Elfstop wrote in post #15966513 (external link)
Obvious you have NEVER been a sworn officer...maybe a reserve or something. Being a mediocre copy and paste warrior don't make you a cop. Also you should know by reading a lot as you have that laws differ and the DA sets the standards for his district...for example: I would not charge anyone for carrying a gun for the purpose of going armed, unless they are a criminal. The DA is ok with that....so is my Sheriff.

Point is here it's different....close your blinds if you want privacy.

What ever dude,, you have no clue what your talking about,,, ill leave it alone,, your ignorance amazes me


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May 25, 2013 15:28 |  #96

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What ever dude,, you have no clue what your talking about,,, ill leave it alone,, your ignorance amazes me

And your stupidity is familiar..we have wannabes here too. Peace.




  
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May 25, 2013 16:02 |  #97

umphotography wrote in post #15966462 (external link)
If you want to pretend to be a criminal investigator for your state,, then you should read this... Simple google search... pretty obvious your blowing smoke up everyones rear end....... I do know what i am talking about


http://law.justia.com …pter-13/part-6/39-13-605/ (external link)

umphotography wrote in post #15966466 (external link)
Its actually a felony in Tennessee,,,,,are you sure your a law enforcement investigator ??

umphotography wrote in post #15966579 (external link)
What ever dude,, you have no clue what your talking about,,, ill leave it alone,, your ignorance amazes me

If you learn nothing else in this thread, please take this tiny lesson with you; YOUR and YOU'RE are not the same word and can't be used interchangeably.

As for the original problem, it's the internet, everyone is an expert. We know how you feel on the subject, so how about we just chill with all the slapping it on the table and measuring it crap? Sound good?


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