6D...right option?

I'm currently using a 650D and I'm looking at getting a 6D to go along side. Mainly because I HATE having to rush about and change lenses all the time for different situations. (And I fancy full frame to play with). I'm currently more of an enthusiast but will be looking to be more professional in the long run. (Studying photography in the near future).

I currently mainly shoot landscapes most the time, I do odd band shoots (as well as a little videoing) and obviously just do holiday/event photos too. I'm also possibly going to be shooting my cousins wedding for her too as a present. Oh, and very very rarely I do some sports stuff too.

So without breaking the bank, would this be a feasible option to consider? Or should I save a bit more money and go to a 5D?

It looks like shooting sports makes up only a small portion of your shooting. For everything else you mentioned the 6D would be perfect. Just keep in mind that if you have crop lenses, they won't work on the 6D, so often it's a lens investment too, not only body.

gabebalazs wrote in post #15949743
It looks like shooting sports makes up only a small portion of your shooting. For everything else you mentioned the 6D would be perfect. Just keep in mind that if you have crop lenses, they won't work on the 6D, so often it's a lens investment too, not only body.

Yeah I have a few EF lenses that I can pop on to the 6D I'd probably stick my 24 - 105L on the 6D and my 10 - 22 on the 650D. I can always save up for a couple more EF lenses once I've got the hang of it anyway, thanks!

A little background about my previous gear.
Started with 40D, switched to 1D2, upgraded to 5D2 which I used for 2 years, went to Nikon D700 for a year, and switched to the 6D this past weekend.

It's awesome. A little small in the hands compared to the bodies I've owned before, but if you're using a 650D, it should feel very familiar.

AF on it is surprisingly good. It doesn't have much coverage with only 11 points, but each point is very sensitive and tracks AF like a pro. The best part IMO, is there's a LOT more customization options with the 6D. I keep the AF on one-shot and programmed the DOF preview button to switch to AI-SERVO when held down. That gives me the AF confirmation beep for stationary objects to AI-SERVO for moving objects instantly, so I don't have to fiddle around with buttons on top and the scroll wheel. I did the same thing with ISO. I programmed the set button to where if I hold that button down and turn the dial, I can adjust ISO. That allows me to not have to take my eye or hands of shooting position!

Those two things seems very small, but those are great subtle additions which make me love the 6D!

This is awesome, I just set up my DOF button to do the same thing w/ AI servo...I'm loving my 6D

automag928 wrote in post #15950068
This is awesome, I just set up my DOF button to do the same thing w/ AI servo...I'm loving my 6D

Thats quite a cool little function actually! That would make things a lot easier than having to switch functions all the time, albeit it is still pretty easy on the 650D! It would be nice to have it that little bit quicker, and the fact that I can make it do what I want

I think I'll probably look at getting one at some point soon then!

There seems to be many with both crop and FF, but trying it myself, I would need to be one way or the other. Beyond the math of going back and forth (focal length), wider sensors have wider perspective. So now your perspective is swapping back and forth.

Perhaps gateway into FF and slowly retire the old body/lenses. But if I actually wanted two, a 7D would keep things the same.

ElectronGuru wrote in post #15950889
There seems to be many with both crop and FF, but trying it myself, I would need to be one way or the other. Beyond the math of going back and forth (focal length), wider sensors have wider perspective. So now your perspective is swapping back and forth.

Perhaps gateway into FF and slowly retire the old body/lenses. But if I actually wanted two, a 7D would keep things the same.

I see your point, but that's not really a problem for me as I have both EF and EF-S lenses. So there would only be certain lenses used on each, so the perspective thing wouldn't be a problem. And like I said....I want full frame to play with.

Just bought a 6D myself, won't arrive untill Tuesday probably. Having a crop and a full frame can be quite nice as it makes most of your lenses dual purpose. Only problem I can see is I will want to use the 6D for every thing meaning I will end up lens swapping all the time anyway.

RileyNZL wrote in post #15963720
Just bought a 6D myself, won't arrive untill Tuesday probably. Having a crop and a full frame can be quite nice as it makes most of your lenses dual purpose. Only problem I can see is I will want to use the 6D for every thing meaning I will end up lens swapping all the time anyway.

Yeah I see what you mean, problem is, I only have two EF lenses, so they'll stay on my 6D (obviously), and the other lenses I can play about with on my 650D, which will primarily be my 10 - 22. Eventually I think I'll probably be looking at going FF entirely. I think the only time I'll be swapping lenses is if I need any extra reach, so the EF lenses can go on the the 650D. I'll still use them both at the same time either way as I (and my mrs) get fed up of rummaging though my bad finding the lens etc all the time!

RileyNZL wrote in post #15963720
Only problem I can see is I will want to use the 6D for every thing meaning I will end up lens swapping all the time anyway.

Yep. I got my 6D and I thought hey, I can keep the zoom on the 6D and a fast prime on the 50D when I shoot dance. But now I can't see doing that, I love the 6D's ISO performance so much.

Yeah Ill probably be using the 6d most of the time and my 60d only when changing lenses isn't practical, or I would miss the shot if I changed. Also looking at grabbing the blackrapid double strap.

I have a 6D and a 7D and I can't emphasize enough how much better the 6D is in low light situations. And for event shots, the Multi-Shot Noise Reduction will amaze you. Shooting at 25,000 ISO with almost no noise opens up a whole new realm of shooting possibilities. Even without using MSNR, you can get usable images at ISOs in the 10,000+ range.

ISO 16,000

RileyNZL wrote in post #15963720
Having a crop and a full frame can be quite nice as it makes most of your lenses dual purpose. Only problem I can see is I will want to use the 6D for every thing meaning I will end up lens swapping all the time anyway.

I've been playing with this idea. Instead of using sRAW as I planned, I put my 6D on full RAW, then got 'less close' to the subject then I normally would, then cropped in PP, yielding a kind of simulated crop sensor. I put a lot of effort into framing in camera so it felt very unnatural, but the results looked great and were still way higher res then I needed. So strictly speaking, the 6D can do both (purposes), provided you don't need 15MP results. That leaves the 7D with what it can do better, like the focus system.

And as these sensors get crazy dense, Canon could actually implement a crop mode, like they do now with ratios. Choose the portion of the sensor you want as easily as pixel count.

ElectronGuru wrote in post #15950889
There seems to be many with both crop and FF, but trying it myself, I would need to be one way or the other. Beyond the math of going back and forth (focal length), wider sensors have wider perspective. So now your perspective is swapping back and forth.

Perhaps gateway into FF and slowly retire the old body/lenses. But if I actually wanted two, a 7D would keep things the same.

Sensor size has NOTHING to do with perspective. The perspective of an image is SOLELY defined by the position of the Camera and Subject. The "correct" process should be to select yor position based on the "perspective" that is required, then find the focal length (for your cameras format) to get the correct framing.

Of course what a lot of people do is select a focal length, and then find a distance that will give them the framing that they want. They then wrongly attribute the resulting perspective to being due to the focal length. The thing to remember is that with the camera/subject distance fixed the perspective will be the same for a 20mm lens and a 200mm lens. If you then print the two images at say 13× (roughly what you need to fill a 10×8 on a Canon crop sensor) for the 200mm lens and 130× for the 20mm lens, the resulting 10×8 prints will be identical as far as perspective is concerned. Of course you would need to shoot the 20mm at f/1 and the 200mm lens at f/10 to get the same DoF.

Alan