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May 25, 2013 04:15 |  #1

...B&W photography?
Looking for a 35mm lens to be mated with a 5D MkII.
A quick search on the forums did not yield any relevant results.
Any insight on manual and/or third-party lenses also would be much appreciated.

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May 25, 2013 04:35 |  #2

There is no such lens. Your post processing is what will make a B&W shine.


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May 25, 2013 06:52 |  #3

If you have a relatively newer canon camera you can set picture style to monochrome, so you can preview your results for B&W photography.


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May 25, 2013 06:59 |  #4

B&W is best shot in color. As such, the best lens is whatever lens you deem appropriate for what you are shooting. Shoot raw, or raw + jpg. If you just shoot jpg monochrome, you will have lost the color information, and that is KEY to PPing B&W.




  
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May 25, 2013 09:03 |  #5

cdifoto wrote in post #15965409 (external link)
Your post processing is what will make a B&W shine.

Tommy1957 wrote in post #15965570 (external link)
If you just shoot jpg monochrome, you will have lost the color information, and that is KEY to PPing B&W.

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the best lens for B/W is also the best for color.


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May 25, 2013 09:17 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #6

No it's all post processing. I On One Software PerfecT B&W and Nik software to a lesser degree. I use both of these in conjuntion with LR


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May 25, 2013 09:44 |  #7

Tommy1957 wrote in post #15965570 (external link)
B&W is best shot in color. As such, the best lens is whatever lens you deem appropriate for what you are shooting. Shoot raw, or raw + jpg. If you just shoot jpg monochrome, you will have lost the color information, and that is KEY to PPing B&W.

+1 :D

I've never shot B&W with my 60D.

However, I have converted to B&W in the beginning of the PP.

I found it wanting to the choice of doing all the PP in color and then going to B&W via full desaturation (in essence I have a color space photo in B&W).

Your Mileage May Vary...:D


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May 25, 2013 10:00 |  #8

Agreed with the above - I would only add, that I sometimes will turn the camera to BW while shooting, so that I can see my shots in BW while I'm taking them. This is only the preview JPG that is actually B/W, as the raw files are still capture in full color. This helps to at least visualize what you're getting without having to commit to it while you're shooting. Of course you need to be shooting in RAW for this, but in my opinion you should be anyways.




  
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May 25, 2013 11:17 |  #9

One of my older MF lenses has less contrast than modern lenses. This has great possibilities for portrits and B&W conversion later. Shot with lower contrast equals more shades of grey perhaps. Yes, shoot in color and do the B&W conversion in PP. Don't just take out the color - there are some great softwares for B&W conversion. Gene


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May 25, 2013 13:23 |  #10

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the best lens for B/W is also the best for color.

Dont understand me wrong, shoot monochrome but keep raws for editing...


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May 25, 2013 13:37 |  #11

The only twist is that a lens not very good for color photography (because of too much chromatic aberration - either longitudinal or lateral) can prove to be perfectly fine for B&W photography. So you can save money, by buying cheeper lenses.


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May 25, 2013 15:20 |  #12

Yes, B&W is in some ways easier than color but I doubt I'd tell someone to buy "cheeper" lenses.


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May 25, 2013 15:31 |  #13

pulsar123 wrote in post #15966391 (external link)
The only twist is that a lens not very good for color photography (because of too much chromatic aberration - either longitudinal or lateral) can prove to be perfectly fine for B&W photography. So you can save money, by buying cheeper lenses.

gasrocks wrote in post #15966596 (external link)
Yes, B&W is in some ways easier than color but I doubt I'd tell someone to buy "cheeper" lenses.

Are those lenses specifically for photographing chickens?




  
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May 25, 2013 19:18 |  #14

Wasn't that a famous clip from the Lucy show: Ethel and Lucy working with some baby chickens and Ethel saying - they remind me of Fred - Ceehp, cheep?


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May 26, 2013 10:22 |  #15

Well, even expensive lenses (think 85L) have substantial longitudinal CA, which cannot be easily fixed in PP, so going B&W will definitely help...


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