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May 30, 2013 19:17 |  #1

I've had Brown Thrashers around me all my life while living in the South, but I didn't know until this year a sure way to differentiate an adult from a juvenile. See what you think.

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Did you catch the difference?

The 1st image is of an adult and the 2nd image is of a juvenile, and if you looked closely enough you would have noticed the difference in the color of the eyes. Here it is again.

3. Adult
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4. Juvenile
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5. Adult
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6. Juvenile
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I would agree that a juvenile BT looks almost identical to an adult in gross morphology and plumage and therefore, misidentification shouldn't be a problem. This little factoid is not widely publicized in the field guides I own and internet birding sites I've visited, although I know of a couple of folks on this board who do know about this as my internet search concernig eye color hit on a 2010 thread from this board.

Just thought you'd like to know......you can go back to whatever it was you were doing, unless you'd like to leave a comment or critique. Thanks for the visit :)

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May 30, 2013 19:22 |  #2

Very interesting and thank you for the information. I did not know this. Beautiful photos of the birds too!


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May 30, 2013 19:25 |  #3

Interesting factoid, and some very pretty shots. Blue eyes in birds and dogs freak me out a bit. But concerning eye color differences, it's like that in osprey too.....not as dramatic a difference, but adults have yellow eyes and fledglings have orange (or it may be the other way around.....I'd have o go back and check).


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May 30, 2013 20:15 |  #4

Awesome info and captures. Great stuff for id! Thanks!
I’ve been trying to get a decent shot of these guys since they showed up a few days ago with no luck. Talk about elusive creatures. Great job!


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May 30, 2013 20:17 |  #5

Wallace River wrote in post #15984179 (external link)
Interesting factoid, and some very pretty shots. Blue eyes in birds and dogs freak me out a bit. But concerning eye color differences, it's like that in osprey too.....not as dramatic a difference, but adults have yellow eyes and fledglings have orange (or it may be the other way around.....I'd have o go back and check).

"Blue eyes in birds and dogs freak me out a bit."
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May 30, 2013 20:22 |  #6

Noticed the difference in eye color immediately but had no idea about this fact, very interesting. I have these birds by the dozens on my farm, now I will pay attention to see if I can recognize some young ones.
Very nice images, thanks for sharing them and the info as well.


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May 30, 2013 21:15 |  #7

Interesting information, Steve. Thank you for the fine photos, too.
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May 30, 2013 22:20 |  #8

Great shots and info. Very subtle difference.


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May 30, 2013 22:31 as a reply to  @ 2n10's post |  #9

Coopers hawks are similar.
Orange eyes as juveniles and red eyes as adults.
Nice photos and documentation.



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May 30, 2013 23:18 |  #10

This is really interesting Camfan! Thanks for the information. I don't think I have ever run across a juvy BRTH, but I'll know now to look for the eyes as another indicator. :)

Hope you don't mind me editing the photos, but I wanted to add to the understanding of recognizing juvenile birds (this can be used as a general reference for species).

I placed these in PDF so the user can zoom in on the picture for a better look at what I'm describing. Hope this helps.


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May 30, 2013 23:46 as a reply to  @ Birdwatcher86's post |  #11

Interesting facts that I didn't know...Great shots too!


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May 31, 2013 10:24 |  #12

butterfly2937 wrote in post #15984170 (external link)
Very interesting and thank you for the information. I did not know this. Beautiful photos of the birds too!

Thanks very much Carol. They are a lot of fun to keep an eye on.

Wallace River wrote in post #15984179 (external link)
Interesting factoid, and some very pretty shots. Blue eyes in birds and dogs freak me out a bit. But concerning eye color differences, it's like that in osprey too.....not as dramatic a difference, but adults have yellow eyes and fledglings have orange (or it may be the other way around.....I'd have o go back and check).

Always enjoy your comments/compliments Ian. Maybe my color balance is off a bit, but the juvie eyes look light gray to me so maybe you don't have to worry about these guys/gals :)

grizzerbear wrote in post #15984274 (external link)
Awesome info and captures. Great stuff for id! Thanks!
I’ve been trying to get a decent shot of these guys since they showed up a few days ago with no luck. Talk about elusive creatures. Great job!

Much appreciated Barry as always. Hang in there with yours as they'll get used to you I'm sure.

Grizz1 wrote in post #15984292 (external link)
Noticed the difference in eye color immediately but had no idea about this fact, very interesting. I have these birds by the dozens on my farm, now I will pay attention to see if I can recognize some young ones.
Very nice images, thanks for sharing them and the info as well.

You're very welcome Steve and thanks for the nice compliment. Your farm must really liven up when all these start singing at the same time.

surgemaster wrote in post #15984427 (external link)
Interesting information, Steve. Thank you for the fine photos, too.
Rex

I'm glad you liked them Rex and your comments and compliments are always very gracious. Thanks.

2n10 wrote in post #15984613 (external link)
Great shots and info. Very subtle difference.

Always appreciate the nice comments 2n. I think the difference went unnoticed by me until I had some images in hand. Then it became very apparent.

jhayesvw wrote in post #15984644 (external link)
Coopers hawks are similar.
Orange eyes as juveniles and red eyes as adults.
Nice photos and documentation.

Thank you very much Jeremy. I wonder about the Curve-billed in your area?

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This is really interesting Camfan! Thanks for the information. I don't think I have ever run across a juvy BRTH, but I'll know now to look for the eyes as another indicator. :)

Hope you don't mind me editing the photos, but I wanted to add to the understanding of recognizing juvenile birds (this can be used as a general reference for species).

I placed these in PDF so the user can zoom in on the picture for a better look at what I'm describing. Hope this helps.

Thanks Michael and editing is fine. I noticed the differences you point out in the recent Nuthatch series I posted and some Carolina Wren images I have. It's a good point to remember.

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Interesting facts that I didn't know...Great shots too!

Maybe you can win a bar bet with this fact Mark :)
I appreciate your nice comments.


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May 31, 2013 11:09 as a reply to  @ CamFan01's post |  #13

Well that's something I've learned today. I didn't know birds eyes changed colour at all! Great series of shots, Steve.




  
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May 31, 2013 11:14 |  #14

Great set Steve, showing the eye colouring very well.


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May 31, 2013 11:45 |  #15

Excellent thread here with beautiful shots of this very vocal species. I noticed the eye color difference...I had some crows nesting in a pine tree in my front yard and was amazed at the blue eyes of the juveniles and its the only time I have seen this.


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