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May 31, 2013 07:21 |  #1

I know this is the 4:3 ratio and I found several places that print these sizes (I have a micro-4/3 setup). However, I don't know where to find good quality and good value frames in those sizes. Does anyone here know where to find them?




  
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May 31, 2013 08:57 |  #2

It might help if you told us where you're located? Personally, I try to crop to the important elements of the image, not to some arbitrary "Standard" frame or paper size & I never crop to fit a frame! Crop the shot as it should be cropped to make the subject look it's best, & then use a mat to cover the "excess" space in the frame.
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May 31, 2013 10:17 |  #3

There are professional photographers who purposely crop to 8x8, 12x12, 15x30 etc. because they know these sizes usually aren't available at box stores. Because of this they are able to sell custom frames along with the pictures which can generate additional income.


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Jun 01, 2013 01:41 |  #4

PhotosGuy wrote in post #15985570 (external link)
It might help if you told us where you're located? Personally, I try to crop to the important elements of the image, not to some arbitrary "Standard" frame or paper size & I never crop to fit a frame! Crop the shot as it should be cropped to make the subject look it's best, & then use a mat to cover the "excess" space in the frame.
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Why would the location matter? Let's say Boston then.

I don't always crop my photos and if I do, let's say I want to use the 4:3 aspect ratio. Where can I find good quality frames in the 6x8 and 9x12 sizes?




  
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Jun 01, 2013 01:41 |  #5

drvnbysound wrote in post #15985816 (external link)
There are professional photographers who purposely crop to 8x8, 12x12, 15x30 etc. because they know these sizes usually aren't available at box stores. Because of this they are able to sell custom frames along with the pictures which can generate additional income.

How do they get custom frames then?




  
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Jun 01, 2013 03:43 |  #6

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How do they get custom frames then?

Use standard frames and use mats when framing. I have a stock of pre-cut mats, they really improve how an image shows itself.

I use good value frames I buy from a local shop in town, I need to keep an eye on their stock because they only buy when the prices are sensible for them.


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Jun 01, 2013 09:24 |  #7

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Why would the location matter? Let's say Boston then.

Because a link to a cheap framer in Lower Slobbovia wouldn't do much good? And maybe someone in Boston would know someone local.


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Jun 01, 2013 09:31 |  #8

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How do they get custom frames then?

They buy them from you... hence the additional income that I was referring to.


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Jun 01, 2013 09:46 |  #9

drvnbysound wrote in post #15985816 (external link)
because they know these sizes usually aren't available at box stores. Because of this they are able to sell custom frames along with the pictures which can generate additional income.

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Jun 01, 2013 10:09 as a reply to  @ maverick75's post |  #10

I'd have to agree.

I had never thought about doing it that way, but recently saw a wedding photographer on Creative Live who only sells prints this way and is pretty successful doing so. Once the couple is booked for a wedding, he tells them that they can come in for a shoot every week until their wedding and get a free 8x8 print each time - (frame purchased separately).

Many photographers complain that the market is dying and they can't make money... this is one way to overcome that. By offering prints in sizes that they can't easily buy at a local store the customer is getting custom work/service from you that others aren't offering, and you can charge accordingly for it. This eliminates indifference, where customers are able to compare you to others on price alone. How much does your 8x10 cost? Walmart charges $2.84... How much do they charge for an 8x8? They don't offer one :) You're the artist, who is creating something that they can't get elsewhere. When a friend walks into their home, and they have 8x8 or 12x12 prints hung, they ask, "Where did you get that? I've never seen that before." How much is that worth to you?


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Jun 01, 2013 11:44 |  #11

drvnbysound wrote in post #15988858 (external link)
I'd have to agree.

I had never thought about doing it that way, but recently saw a wedding photographer on Creative Live who only sells prints this way and is pretty successful doing so. Once the couple is booked for a wedding, he tells them that they can come in for a shoot every week until their wedding and get a free 8x8 print each time - (frame purchased separately).

Many photographers complain that the market is dying and they can't make money... this is one way to overcome that. By offering prints in sizes that they can't easily buy at a local store the customer is getting custom work/service from you that others aren't offering, and you can charge accordingly for it. This eliminates indifference, where customers are able to compare you to others on price alone. How much does your 8x10 cost? Walmart charges $2.84... How much do they charge for an 8x8? They don't offer one :) You're the artist, who is creating something that they can't get elsewhere. When a friend walks into their home, and they have 8x8 or 12x12 prints hung, they ask, "Where did you get that? I've never seen that before." How much is that worth to you?

I wonder how much resentment and lack of referrals that creates though. Some times you just want a $5 standard sized frame from Walmart. Not every print needs the expense of a custom frame and mat.




  
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Jun 01, 2013 13:26 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #12

Try americanframe.com They offer non-standard and custom sizes and are pretty affordable. Also learn to make your own frames. It's not difficult and can save you a lot of money.


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Jun 01, 2013 14:54 |  #13

mike_d wrote in post #15989103 (external link)
I wonder how much resentment and lack of referrals that creates though. Some times you just want a $5 standard sized frame from Walmart. Not every print needs the expense of a custom frame and mat.

When you create stunning images that the client LOVES it doesn't matter. They are going share the pictures on Facebook and/or show them to their family/friends when they come over to visit. If you are taking snapshots that Uncle John can get... yeah, it's a different story.

I mentioned this in another thread that's in the business section. The short version is those people who want a $5 frame from Walmart aren't the clients that I want. Likewise, I don't and will probably never offer an 8x10 for $2.84. You can have these clients. These clients are indifferent and only compare price. They usually aren't educated about posing, post processing, and professional photography in general. They don't understand the difference in my 8x10 and the one they can get from Walmart. That doesn't mean I won't explain the service and value to them and try to turn them into the client that I want... but the fact is that this is just how some people are and I understand that.

I'd much prefer to cater to clientele who will pay $50 or $100 for an 8x10 because they see the value/service that I provide. These clients understand the value of a professional photographer and what they are capable of doing.


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Jun 01, 2013 14:58 |  #14

Also, regarding frames, here's another source:

http://www.mpix.com …ts/homedecor/fr​amedprints (external link)

EDIT: They don't have the 6x8, but they do have 9x12


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Jun 27, 2013 07:47 |  #15

drvnbysound wrote in post #15989517 (external link)
Also, regarding frames, here's another source:

http://www.mpix.com …ts/homedecor/fr​amedprints (external link)

EDIT: They don't have the 6x8, but they do have 9x12

Have you ever ordered frames from Mpix before? Are they of any good quality?

When looking through their frame pricing, I see price in one of the columns, but also clear glass, non-glare glass, and mat. Are those in addition to the original price or they're separate materials?




  
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