New monitor... and now ? PP again ?

Amamba wrote in post #16157032
#3 I can very well see the threads in tire on the right of the red area, barely the ones on the left - but still can see them.

If you can see them then i have a serious problem and should not start editing yet

I will give a try to connect the monitor on another machine to exclude that the gpu cannot handle well the monitor.

Since my laptop has no DVI output,
i connected my laptop with a HDMI-to-DVI cable.

The results were still the same...

I want to hope that its not my VGA, else i will need a new notebook.

Yea, I can see details in all those areas and my monitor is set properly dark (if that makes sense) - actually I can still see details if I make the monitor much much darker than it should be.

Still i had no chance to connect my monitor on another machine to find where the problem is.
Since both vga and hdmi made no difference, the problem is not in the connection.

The only way i can reduce the problem is to increase gamma and brightness from nvidia control, but then i got my colors washed out.

On the monitors default profile, all that information is gone..

Final test failed as well.... unfortunately.

I plugged the monitor on another notebook. While on the notebook i could see the black detail, on dell the results were exactly the same as they were on my notebook.

Lots of lost black information even with the monitor being sunbright at 100% brightness.

After so many tests and waste of time, i guess its time to contact with Dell.

I am not sure what they do in such a scenario, and how they confirm that what i see is not what i should exactly see.

Please enlighten me on that.

Οk, so here we are still fighting with that problem.

I am still not convinced that my monitor shows correctly the dark grey (almost black) colors...
Today i got a calibration device which a tried.

The results seem to be pretty fine. Unfortunately i don't have the screenshot of the second mesurement , although the results of the first are pretty much the same (a bit worse cause of the ambient light).


Of course there is something weird that happened. After the calibration, the exported profile was really messed up on whites. It reduced the Kelvin dramaticaly making my monitor yellowish. That something i cannot understand.

The rest shows to be fine. Although i am still convinced that there is something wrong with the dark greys when i compare it with many other monitors where i can see all that dark information and in mine its just a plain black.

So here we are.

Results:

I am using Samsung SyncMaster SA5500 and Spyder3 Pro.
Here is how i see on my pc (taken pictures with camera).

With Calibration off

commonjunks wrote in post #16342372
I am using Samsung SyncMaster SA5500 and Spyder3 Pro.
Here is how i see on my pc (taken pictures with camera).

With Calibration off

With Calibration on

commonjunks thank you very much.

What i see also on my monitor is the second image you posted, the calibrated one.
Where on other monitors i see more detail as you do also on the first image.

I am not sure anymore what is correct....

Anybody ?

Alarm wrote in post #16344955
Anybody ?

Sorry I can't be of much help, but offhand I'd suspect your contrast setting...?

Maybe if you post a link to the original shot people could jump in?

tonylong wrote in post #16346793
Sorry I can't be of much help, but offhand I'd suspect your contrast setting...?

Maybe if you post a link to the original shot people could jump in?

well the contrast on my monitor is something that i tried. from 1% to 100% . nothing changed with the blacks.

what i see is the same as commonjunks View Post second calibrated image.
which to my eyes is wrong as it loses a lot of dark information. I might be wrong though.


what do you mean with the original shot ? on which image do you refer ? sorry didn't understand.

thank you for the answer

Alarm wrote in post #16348197
what do you mean with the original shot ? on which image do you refer ? sorry didn't understand.

thank you for the answer

By "original" I mean upload and post a link to the out-of-camera shot with no editing done.

tonylong wrote in post #16348412
By "original" I mean upload and post a link to the out-of-camera shot with no editing done.

Ok, if i understood well.

Here we are. Do not mind the colors. My camera could not reproduce them well in the way i see them. The blacks are though pretty similar to what i see on my monitor as well. The jpegs are unprocessed exports from raws. Since the images are too big i post just the url to the images

Original image 1:
http://imageshack.us/a​/img694/1552/e6og.jpg

What i see from my monitor.
http://imageshack.us/a​/img266/5517/ho7z.jpg


Oringal Image 2:
http://imageshack.us/a​/img89/5493/81ho.jpg

What i see from my monitor
http://imageshack.us/a​/img594/8600/f4db.jpg


As i said to my previous post. the results with my monitor look much like the ones of
commonjunks that were posted.

What do the images look like when you print them?

Nightstalker wrote in post #16349427
What do the images look like when you print them?

I havent tried that. I aint got a printer.

As i said. I got a replacement (monitor), the blacks were the same.
Checked the blacks on a mid-range LG , they looked a bit better. more detail.
Checked the blacks on a low range dell and lg, there was more black information (which i dont know if it was correct.

On this page... http://www.lagom.nl …t/black.php#bla​cktest.png
i can see a tiny difference between 1 and 3 . 2 seems identical to 1.

I don't know. Maybe its just my mind and got used on crappy monitor that i could see things i should not.