Please help me to know if there is a way to use the battery pack (8 cells) without loading 4 cells in the Speedlites?
Thanks!
TheLoftStudios Goldmember 1,072 posts Likes: 9 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Houston, Texas More info | May 31, 2013 12:32 | #2 Can't happen, won't happen..... the speedlite must have the four batteries in it. MARK
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elv Goldmember 1,491 posts Likes: 181 Joined Jul 2006 More info | May 31, 2013 13:19 | #4 Tigerkn wrote in post #15986346 It is time to buy more Eneloopsss. Or grab yourself one or two of these and you will never look back -
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Jun 03, 2013 16:24 | #5 elv wrote in post #15986386 Or grab yourself one or two of these and you will never look back - http://flashhavoc.com …iew/#Lithium_Battery_Pack .
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one1002 Member 100 posts Joined Apr 2012 Location: Malaysia More info | Jun 03, 2013 17:59 | #6 There is hack somewhere that allows you to use dummy batteries inside the flash unit, making it possible to use only 8 batteries in the battery pack. But i cant recall where i read that.
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dmward Cream of the Crop More info | Jun 03, 2013 22:17 | #7 one1002 wrote in post #15996324 There is hack somewhere that allows you to use dummy batteries inside the flash unit, making it possible to use only 8 batteries in the battery pack. But i cant recall where i read that. That "hack" is to enable using an external battery to replace the internal AA cells. Result is that one gets a lot of exposures before battery dies. Bad news is that there is no High Voltage connection so recharge time is longer. i.e. same as with AAs in the speedlite. David | Sharing my Insights, Knowledge & Experience
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Arman'sPhotography Senior Member 663 posts Joined Dec 2009 Location: Milton, Ontario More info | Jun 03, 2013 22:36 | #8 elv wrote in post #15986386 Or grab yourself one or two of these and you will never look back - http://flashhavoc.com …iew/#Lithium_Battery_Pack . How much is just the battery pack? And where to buy Toronto Wedding Photographer
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Deanhedges Member 68 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2013 More info | Jun 03, 2013 22:57 | #9 Cheetah Stand http://hedgesphotography.zenfolio.com
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Arman'sPhotography Senior Member 663 posts Joined Dec 2009 Location: Milton, Ontario More info | Jun 03, 2013 23:01 | #10 Thanks Dean, $215 is not bad if the pack is really as good as they say!? Toronto Wedding Photographer
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elv Goldmember 1,491 posts Likes: 181 Joined Jul 2006 More info | Jun 03, 2013 23:27 | #11 Armans Photography wrote in post #15997190 =Arman's Photography;15997190]Thanks Dean, $215 is not bad if the pack is really as good as they say!? If anything its probably overkill for a speedlight, but its made to plug 2 in when needed as well without slowing recycle.
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Arman'sPhotography Senior Member 663 posts Joined Dec 2009 Location: Milton, Ontario More info | Jun 03, 2013 23:29 | #12 elv wrote in post #15997260 If anything its probably overkill for a speedlight, but its made to plug 2 in when needed as well without slowing recycle. You won't want to go back to AA packs again. . Interesting, I might consider these in the near future. Toronto Wedding Photographer
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Jun 04, 2013 02:31 | #13 one1002 wrote in post #15996324 There is hack somewhere that allows you to use dummy batteries inside the flash unit, making it possible to use only 8 batteries in the battery pack. But i cant recall where i read that. dmward wrote in post #15997072 That "hack" is to enable using an external battery to replace the internal AA cells. Result is that one gets a lot of exposures before battery dies. Bad news is that there is no High Voltage connection so recharge time is longer. i.e. same as with AAs in the speedlite. The INTERNAL batteries perform a number of functions on the speedlight:
As David says, it's perfectly possible to 'hack' a the battery compartment via the dummy battery / external daisy-chain of cells route and get the increase in number of flashes. BUT, that daisy-chain must be <=6v as it is feeding into a 6v capacity circuit. If you simply grabbed one of the many power packs designed for application to the EXTERNAL power port, cut off the plug and substituted your dummy batteries feeding into the INTERNAL circuitry, your flash will go BANG. It will only do it once. It will then be a †† deceased †† flashgun/speedlight. So that's a US$500 flash wrecked to try to save US$5(?) on AAs - not sound economics! Bear in mind that the hack option is literally a HACK as you either have to butcher the battery compartment cover or leave it open to get the cable in from your daisy-chain of cells totalling <6v. Inelegant and not really a viable option, appealing though it may at first seem. If I remember correctly, Metz units used to (dunno if this still applies) work without internal batteries when used with Metz's own P45/50/70 power packs. There may be others which can be 'adjusted' to work this way - but it seems an awful lot of fuss simply to save the cost of those 4 internal AAs. With a perfectly standard external power pack plugged into the external port (giving you enhanced recycle times AND greater number of flashes because of the increase in capacity (mAh) of a greater number of external cells), the drain on those 4 internal cells in pretty small so the expense of replacing them is only going to be occasional. The whole 'hack' idea seems to me to be a lot of messing about / ruining any 2nd hand value of the unit / compromise for no real benefit. Like others here, I would strongly recommend either the Pixel TD3xx (Elv's review on FlashHavoc.com) Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Jun 04, 2013 10:52 | #15 Tigerkn wrote in post #15998542 Thanks for your knowledgable info Phil!!! I will buy some extra Eneloops ![]() You're very welcome. Take a look too at the Eneloop XX (XX = the Adult version
- let them suffer instead.** I've usually found that these 'free' accumulators are worth just marginally less than I paid for them. Which was nothing, so ..... ![]() Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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