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Jun 04, 2013 16:04 |  #1

Pixel Peeping Syndrome: Who suffers from this as well

A bad habit I have picked up lately. I have even gotten to the point that I am going thru older photos and enlarging to 100% and telling my self "What where you thinking!". I'm trash, no good, doggy doo! LOL, but seriously why now after all these years does this bother me so much. Share your thoughts and experiences on how you deal with this deadly disease.


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Jun 04, 2013 16:09 |  #2

One time, when I bought my first Sigma, which was at a time that some people felt winning at Russian roulette was easier. The lens was tack sharp. Never worried after that.




  
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Jun 04, 2013 16:20 |  #3

The problems with pixel-peeping, on this board, are over stated.
If looking at your shots at 100% helps you, do it. For example, I believe adjusting sharpness and noise should always be done at 100%. But, if you are not happy with your shots at 100%, but you like your prints or reductions on the computer screen (whatever your endgame is) don't let the, only visible at 100% imperfections get you down -- in those situations, they don't matter.


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Jun 04, 2013 16:26 |  #4

They are my pixels and I'll peep at them if I want to.

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Jun 04, 2013 16:26 as a reply to  @ hairy_moth's post |  #5

If I take several images of the same thing, I'll pixel-peep and keep the sharpest. It might not make a difference for 4X6 prints, but if I go to a 11X14 or such, it does.


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Jun 04, 2013 16:39 |  #6

I can see spots caused by dust or whatever on the sensor at 100%, so I view at that to clean them up before printing.

Other than that I tend too gage the focus by seeing if I can see the compound eyes on my subjects (if they were not taken at very high levels of magnification). That is largely to see if I actually managed to get the focus I aimed for.

I don't see the problem with checking stuff out, especially if I am paying to get it printed.


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Jun 04, 2013 16:52 |  #7

I only go to 100% for things such as checking focus accuracy at wide apertures/macros, cloning/healing/dust bunnies etc & certainly not regular with every image...!!!


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Jun 04, 2013 18:11 |  #8

trx125 wrote in post #15999671 (external link)
I'm trash, no good, doggy doo! LOL, but seriously why now after all these years does this bother me so much. Share your thoughts and experiences on how you deal with this deadly disease.

sorry, I don't suffer the syndrome but if you constantly view your photos at 100% then pixel peeping treatment may be prescribed




  
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Jun 04, 2013 18:21 |  #9

I don't see why viewing 100% is pixel peeping. My shots are sharp at 100%. If I'm zooming in to 400% and complaining well that's an issue. I want my shots to be sharp when viewed at the normal resolution. I shouldn't have to zoom out to 25% to make them look sharp - that means I've missed focus.


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Jun 04, 2013 18:25 |  #10

I'll admit I am somewhat guilty of this as of late but I'm trying to think about my photography differently now. I look at it that nobody but me will ever see an image at 100% magnification EVER unless I blow them up to ridiculous sizes I basically only pixel peep for doing noise reduction etc now


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Jun 04, 2013 18:34 |  #11

Numenorean wrote in post #16000166 (external link)
I don't see why viewing 100% is pixel peeping. My shots are sharp at 100%. If I'm zooming in to 400% and complaining well that's an issue. I want my shots to be sharp when viewed at the normal resolution. I shouldn't have to zoom out to 25% to make them look sharp - that means I've missed focus.

it's because even if not sharp, a shot can turn out well on print... even large ones.

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but said screw it, I'll print it out anyways. I'm definitely not satisfied because I was simply out of focus(rushed the shot), but my wife likes it, so it's on our wall. 12x18"

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Jun 04, 2013 19:03 |  #12

POTN is a bad place to be if you are predisposed to the condition.... ;) POTN is an enabler.


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Jun 04, 2013 19:12 as a reply to  @ BrickR's post |  #13

I've always pixel peeped, even grain peeped on film with a grain magnifier under the enlarger.


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Jun 04, 2013 19:17 |  #14

I admit I am a pixel peeper. Maybe there is a PPA organization that I can join ;)

BUT, I do take everything into consideration. Lens, body, circumstances, light, distance, shutter speed etc. when I examine something at 100%. So I usually don't freak out when I pixel peep and see results that may seem scary :)


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Jun 04, 2013 19:27 |  #15

When I did my own darkroom work back in the day, I would do some pixel peeping (or like Mark says above, grain peeping), just to know how much leeway I had for enlargements. But the vast majority of my past photography consisted of shooting, sending off the film, and getting back my 3x5's or 4x6's. At that size, almost everything looked good. Now when I look through my images in Bridge, I use the loupe at 100% and if they don't look sharp, they're usually gone. If I know I won't be cropping much or at all, I may keep them if they are otherwise good images.

The difference between then and now is, of course, the equipment. I used to use bodies and glass that would be considered consumer level today. And of course everything was manual. When I manual focus today, even with my Eg-S screen, I never get the level of sharpness that the AF will, unless I take the time to use a tripod and LV at 10x zoom.

Five or ten years from now we'll have cameras that do what Gigapan does today and they'll hang easily around your neck. Then we'll see some gigapixel peeping.:cool:


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