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Jun 05, 2013 13:32 |  #1

So I treated my set up with a lovely Dell U2713H which is a beautiful wide gamut monitor (99% aRGB).

Loving the near 800:1 contrast, colours and clarity...but...

Every time I play a video in VLC, Windows Media Player, Media Player Classic or whatever, the colour profile changes in around 30second in to the video to give a very blue looking tint.

I have 670gtx SLI, Dell U2713H, latest drivers (in both cases) and been looking for a difinitive answer for a couple of days on google to no avail.

I am assuming it has something to do with colour managed video players or something, but still I an not find much help about it, although people have posted the problem on other forums a lot.

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Jun 05, 2013 18:15 |  #2

Try going to the NVIDIA Control Panel,

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- Adjust video colour settings: check the radial button to video player settings or NVIDIA settings, whichever brings the result you want

Also check Adjust video image settings

I don't know how it is with the Dell, I have Eizo CG276s that use Eizo ColorNavigator for calibration. ColorNavigator has a setting for "When video card gamma changes" and the options are Reset to default, Show message or Ignore. See if your calibration software offers any such options and adjust accordingly.

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Jun 05, 2013 19:12 |  #3

Have you tried the monitor on another system to see if the same thing happens. If it does, it's the monitor setup, if not it's the 670GTX. It could be several things, but is most likely the video card. Have you tweaked it's settings for photo's? There should be a tab in the cards Cpanel for video playback. Play around with it. If you can, set two profiles, one for photos and another for Video. Oh, and do you play any PC games? Bad code could cause a game to change card settings upon starting some games, but not reset it on exit.


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Jun 05, 2013 23:45 |  #4

Just for information, Windows Media Player, Media Center and Adobe Flash Player are NOT color managed, so videos will look really oversaturated, especially with reds.

If I recall correctly the shareware Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) isn't color managed by default, but in the menus theres a choice to turn it on. Apple Quicktime player is also color managed, but I prefer Media Player Classic Home Cinema since you can have it stay on top of other windows.

By the way, for photo editing,you don't want your monitor set anywhere close to 800:1 contrast ratio. I calibrate my NEC PA241W to around 250:1 and would never go over 350:1.


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Jun 06, 2013 11:06 |  #5

Thanks, I am about to try all of this and see what happens.
I have the nVidia settings to "player manages colour"...suppose if I used Nvidia to manage them and skew them to make it look more normal it may work.

May I ask, is the reason for the 300 contrast ratio so that it is close to most printers capabilities?


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Jun 06, 2013 23:38 |  #6

The monitor contrast ratio should be set close to the media you output to. Glossy paper is somewhere arount 250-300:1 and matte is much lower. High contrast ratio spec'd monitors are not required for photo editing. It's more important to have no change in the image "density" with viewing angle and a monitor that's easily and accurately calibrated.

If you have the contrast ratio set too high and you edit so that the image looks nice on your monitor your prints will look flat. Same idea if your monitor brightness is too high, such as the factory default, your prints will be really dark.

Another tip is that if your monitor is the typical Dell you should have the brightness turned down to around 15% (plus or minus a couple of percent depending on your room lighting). If it looks dim then it's probably set right. It takes a few days of use to get comfortable with a monitor properly set up for photo editing. Most (all) monitors are way too bright at the factory setting.

Also, what browser are you using? if your calibrating to full gamut Firefox works really well but only if you flip their hidden setting to color manage untagged images. There's a simple add-on that provides access to the switch without having to enter the hidden settings screens. FF is color managed, but if someone posts an untagged aRGB image it will look awful unless you change the setting. Also, if you have a Smugmug, Zenfolio, Flickr, whatever account, they typically use Adobe Flash Player for slideshows instead of HTML5, so the slideshow images will look awful on a wide gamut monitor and unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it unless you flip to an sRGB gamut monitor profile.


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