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dpyro
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Jun 10, 2013 12:36 |  #1

After trying to wrangle an iPad into doing my bidding, it's just not worth it trying to pump any kind of RAW based workflow through it. It's an excellent viewer, but it can't do PP imho beyond tagging (I've tried a dozen apps!). I need a laptop to do PP on the road and improve my turn-around time.

Synopsis: Amateur photographer/videograp​her looking to pursue this as a hobby that eventually can at least pay for itself. I'm just learning what I don't know, and so the sky is the limit. I am skilled with computers and am a programmer at heart.

Current equipment:

  • Canon 600D w/ ML
  • EF-S 18–55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II (kit lens)
  • Buying: EF 50mm f/1.8 I/II
  • 32GB SDHC (slightly too slow) + Buying: faster 32/64GB SDHC/SDXC
  • Canon LP-E8 Battery + Generic LP-E8 Battery (both have been great!)
  • Bad Targus Tripod Replacing
  • Considering: a cheap camcorder that can be kept on a tripod. 1920p@60fps is ideal, but will settle for 1920p@30fps + 1280p@60fps
  • iPhone 5: The ultimate in candid photography. Good for quick JPEG shots. Experimented with GPS logging for the 600D, but it's a pain and burns battery too quickly.
  • iPad 4 (family's): Good for displaying a rough or finished product. Retina display and factory calibrated for sRGB out of the box. Not good for RAW or color-managed PP.


Usage: Raw photos primarily. JPEG when I need to be able to take continuous shots and am confident that my WB is fine. Panorama via JPG. Occasional movies (600D encodes high quality with poor compression, and needs to be trimmed on camera. It can easily be re-encoded by a more powerful computer to take advantage of advanced .h264 compression abilities with imperceptible loss in quality.)

Problem: My problem is PP. I used my home desktop, which is a gaming rig that was slowly converted into a workstation. It is straining for me to sit at a desk for that long. More importantly, I want rough drafts to show clients—ok, friends/family but I'm making a name for myself and am gaining experience and possibly gigs. I want faster turn-around times—faster Flickr upload after the event = more relevant. I also need to store all the data somewhere since I'm dumping my SD cards after the day is done.

Laptop:
Needs
  • Good monitor. (1080p minimum resolution. IPS. Good gamut (sRGB as much as possible, decent factory calibration: will acquire colorimeter later. Fast refresh rate. 120Hz is a bonus but optional. High contrast, etc.))
  • Optional: Retina-style display. This is expensive, so it can be sent to the chopping block!
  • Linux-compatible.
  • 13-14" is ideal, will consider 12-15.4" if needed.
  • 64GB+ SSD disk.
  • Optional: Additional internal HDD so I don't have to carry around an external HDD.
  • Reasonable RAW processing.
  • OpenCL video card. Also so I can play games. ;)
  • Multitouch trackpad.
  • Internal DVD+/-RW.
  • Internal SD/SDHC/SDXC card reader.
  • HDMI external output
  • 450Mbps b/g/n dual-band (2.4Ghz + 5Ghz).
  • Optional: Touchscreen abilities of any kind.


Unneeded
  • Raw power: Have my Frankenstein workstation at home.
  • Large battery: Usually I can plug-in.
  • OS.
  • Software.
  • Lightweight. I work out!

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Jun 11, 2013 00:07 |  #2

Lenovo Thinkpad X230T (external link) is meant to be excellent. Read about it here.


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Jun 11, 2013 16:55 |  #3

Still a bit pricey, but I picked up a Surface Pro about a month ago, and I don't see myself ever taking my laptop on the road with me again. It's a full Windows 8 OS with a i5 processor, so it's really more laptop than tablet, especially if you add the optional (and also expensive) keyboard. I still see myself using a desktop for any heavy PP work, so I haven't installed Photoshop on the tablet, but it runs Lightroom like it was a desktop.




  
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dpyro
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Jun 11, 2013 19:30 |  #4

tim wrote in post #16019344 (external link)
Lenovo Thinkpad X230T (external link) is meant to be excellent. Read about it here.

This is surprisingly attractive to me, and looks like it can survive a TSA encounter. Any personal experience?

The low resolution can be worked around if the tactile interface can let me quickly zoom in and out, for example. My only concern is the screen color fidelity: sRGB is fine, as long as it's a "good" sRGB.

IslandCrow wrote in post #16021681 (external link)
Still a bit pricey, but I picked up a Surface Pro about a month ago, and I don't see myself ever taking my laptop on the road with me again. It's a full Windows 8 OS with a i5 processor, so it's really more laptop than tablet, especially if you add the optional (and also expensive) keyboard. I still see myself using a desktop for any heavy PP work, so I haven't installed Photoshop on the tablet, but it runs Lightroom like it was a desktop.

I will either be running Linux or Mac. I don't want my edits locked into a proprietary system. More importantly, I want to automate as much as possible and have the flexibility to make up for a lack of fancy equipment, and I want to be able to do it from the command line all the way to the point of input SD card with RAWs/JPEGs (sRGB or Adobe RGB 1998)/MOVs, output color-corrected sRGB JPEG/.h264 mp4 iPad-ready proofs with lens correction, noise cleaning, and sharpening (removing in-camera sharpening lets me burst more RAWs at the expense of additional post-processing). I can't do it in Windows, and I doubt Linux will support Surface Pro anytime soon.

But don't get me wrong, it's a great suggestion. :)


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Jun 11, 2013 19:39 |  #5

My experience with Lenovo is a bit disappointing. Their touchpad is without doubt the worst I've ever used, and the red joystick thing doesn't help much as it is slower/less accurate. I know it is not just my laptop with this issue as I went back to the store to try and get an exchange, but the other Lenovos there were the same.

My favourite laptop so far has been a Vaio.


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Jun 12, 2013 03:36 |  #6

dpyro wrote in post #16022113 (external link)
This is surprisingly attractive to me, and looks like it can survive a TSA encounter. Any personal experience?

Nope, try reading the thread I linked to, and asking Lloyd who started that thread who has the earlier model.


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Jun 12, 2013 14:06 |  #7

Retina MacBook Pro works for me. Maxed out ones are now $1000 less than at launch. Look at the price list links at www.appleinsider.com (external link)




  
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Jun 12, 2013 14:50 |  #8

No experience with it, but that Thinkpad x230t can purchased with an optional IPS screen.


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