Light Weight Battery for Speedlights...?

EmaginePixel wrote in post #16029500
Received the PB3000 today and fired it up side by side against PIxel TD-381, TOTALLY IMPRESSED!! Recycle at full power just about the same time, about 1 second. Can't believe the PB3000 costs cheaper than the TD-381 including lithium battery.

Well, there you have it... Now I'm actually wishing I had a @#$%ing external battery port. Doh!

EmaginePixel wrote in post #16029500
Received the PB3000 today and fired it up side by side against PIxel TD-381, TOTALLY IMPRESSED!! Recycle at full power just about the same time, about 1 second. Can't believe the PB3000 costs cheaper than the TD-381 including lithium battery.

Thanks for that.

Now all you need to do is fire the flash of 1000 times at full power and let us know what the capacity is really like

Seriously though, even if it was half of what it says, or even 1/3rd, that would still match the Pixel pack, and save the hassle of AA's.
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elv wrote in post #16029533
Thanks for that.
Seriously though, even if it was half of what it says, or even 1/3rd, that would still match the Pixel pack, and save the hassle of AA's.
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I know right? Well, guess what I'm doing right now? Charging up 16 Eneloops to max capacity to make sure it's an even fight. 4 to each a pair of 580EXii and another 8 to PIxel. The PB3000 is all ready to roll.

EmaginePixel wrote in post #16029567
I know right? Well, guess what I'm doing right now? Charging up 16 Eneloops to max capacity to make sure it's an even fight. 4 to each a pair of 580EXii and another 8 to PIxel. The PB3000 is all ready to roll.

can you recharge it? (directly from the power socket to the pack)

You mean AC to PB3000 while connected to speedlite? Dunno... defeats the purpose then. I rather use Einsteins in that case.

EmaginePixel wrote in post #16029700
You mean AC to PB3000 while connected to speedlite? Dunno... defeats the purpose then. I rather use Einsteins in that case.

The implication, from dimensions listed is that this pack is about the size of a Pixel pack. Is that accurate?

dmward wrote in post #16031326
The implication, from dimensions listed is that this pack is about the size of a Pixel pack. Is that accurate?

I'll try to do a side by side comparison if I get a chance this weekend. From my memory, Pixel is slim and long and the PB3000 is more square, blocky. It's much smaller than PB960 from GoDox for sure.

Even though rated at 1,000+ pops at full, to do so in real shoot is just nuts and risky. I prefer to go with 2 units at 1/2 power.

EmaginePixel wrote in post #16029700
You mean AC to PB3000 while connected to speedlite? Dunno... defeats the purpose then. I rather use Einsteins in that case.

I mean to recharge it if the pack is about to die or whatever, can I simply connect it to an outlet or do I need to take out the AA batteries and recharge it that way?

ChrisAdval wrote in post #16032270
I mean to recharge it if the pack is about to die or whatever, can I simply connect it to an outlet or do I need to take out the AA batteries and recharge it that way?

Unless I misunderstand, there are no removable cells. Just the power port.

dmward wrote in post #16034272
Unless I misunderstand, there are no removable cells. Just the power port.

That was exactly my reading of the situation - just the same configuration as the Godox PB820 in that there is no removeable battery, no access to the interior and no alternative with a discharged or nearly discharged pack but to change to a different pack. The only operational difference between the PB3000 and the PB820 appears to be that the former uses Lithium cells while the latter is NiMH based so you get longer working life between charges.

looks like this post caused the price for the PB3000 nearly DOUBLE!

Whortleberry wrote in post #16025046
http://www.linkdelight​.com …USB-Output-for-Canon.html Canon-fit or http://www.linkdelight​.com …USB-Output-for-Nikon.html Nikon-fit as of 22:14GMT on 12 June 2013

interesting product !!!

does this product compatible to Quantum as well ?

tongki wrote in post #16054166
interesting product !!!

does this product compatible to Quantum as well ?

If a quantum cable will plug into the unit, its likely that it would work.
The objective for these batteries is to provide a high voltage source to the flash unit.

Damage could be caused by too much voltage, but since they work with speedlites I suspect that they would work with Quantum. But the testing is your own responsibility along with the risk.

dmward wrote in post #16054363
If a quantum cable will plug into the unit, its likely that it would work.
The objective for these batteries is to provide a high voltage source to the flash unit.

Damage could be caused by too much voltage, but since they work with speedlites I suspect that they would work with Quantum. But the testing is your own responsibility along with the risk.

Yes, David,
thanks for the information, really kind of you

I just search on linkdelight and fingers are shaking, BUY or WAIT ...

interesting point,
it is small, lightweight, fancy USB socket
and makes it more interesting, It says 11.1V inside,
means it is compatible with some battery pack I already has
that are using the same 11.1V
also there are some openings from the back of the unit

I like it just need some more review to convince

The pack I ordered arrived in the post this afternoon.
I did a quick comparison with it, a Cheetah Light L4500, and a Pixel TD-382 with NiMh rechargeable.

I used 3 600EX-RTs. I used iMovie to measure the recycle time. From white out frame when speedlites fired until the frame when the red ready light illuminated. All three speedlites were set to M and fired using STE3. They were in the same group.

PB3000 .5 Sec, L4500 and Pixel .6 sec. I repeated the test 4 times with essentially the same results. Variations probably have more to do with accuracy of iMovie than any thing.

The L4500 is marked as 11.1v and 4500mAh. The PB3000 is supposedly 11.1v and 3000mAh. And the Pixel pack with 8 rechargable NiMh AA cells is approximately 11.2v and the cells I had in the pack are rated at 2500mAh.

The Pixel pack, with batteries but no outer case weights 400gr. The BP3000 weights 500gr and the L4500 was off the scale. Speced at 540gr on the website.

As the two images illustrate; The PB3000 and the L4500 are very close in size. The Pixel pack is taller, thinner and narrower. It also has the flimsiest cable and its not interchangeable.

The PB3000 cable will plug into the L4500 and the L4500 cable will plug into the BP3000. Both are substantial cables. On a par with the quantum cables in terms of cable thickness.

Dave F has tested Quantum cables and lights with the L4500 so I expect that the PB3000 will work with them as well.

The L4500 is by far the best built and with the slide off battery also much more versatile.

The synthetic fabric lined vinyl case for the PB3000 is really cheap looking. And the straps are minimal. The metal clips for the case strap look like they will give out easily.

The PB3000 is a bargain at $60 and probably still reasonable at $90.

The slot like impressions on the back are just that, decoration.