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Jun 17, 2013 13:32 |  #1

http://www.canonrumors​.com/2013/06/is-this-the-eos-3d/ (external link)


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Jun 17, 2013 14:07 |  #2

If they were trying to keep the prototype a secret, creating a strap that announces it seems counter-productive.


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Jun 17, 2013 14:15 as a reply to  @ Indecent Exposure's post |  #3

My thought's exactly.

This reminds me of the pre-production automobile-camouflage manufacturers use, with oddly-shaped vinyl and tape to obscure the shape and lines of the vehicle.

Why not [doesn't Canon] hand out these test-cameras with a different strap (blank-strap, L3 strap, Rebel/non-body-labeled strap, EW-100dbIII)? They went through the trouble of blurring the photo so we can't see the camera... but Canon let it out of their possession with a big billboard neck strap advertising what it is. Whoever blurred the photo is trying to hide the body, but Canon clearly isn't. :lol:

Regardless, I am always excited to see a new Canon SLR. I wonder if the NSA could tell us the specs? :p


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Jun 17, 2013 14:21 as a reply to  @ koala yummies's post |  #4

I hope not. I hate 1D-type bodies.




  
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Jun 17, 2013 16:08 |  #5

I'm trying to imagine what there is room for spec wise between the 1DX and 5D Mark III. What would this thing be? A weatherproof 5D3? A 1DX limited to 8 fps? That's splitting hairs in the market.


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Jun 17, 2013 16:11 |  #6

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I'm trying to imagine what there is room for spec wise between the 1DX and 5D Mark III. What would this thing be? A weatherproof 5D3? A 1DX limited to 8 fps? That's splitting hairs in the market.

The rumor site says huge megapixel.


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JeffreyG wrote in post #16039812 (external link)
I'm trying to imagine what there is room for spec wise between the 1DX and 5D Mark III. What would this thing be? A weatherproof 5D3? A 1DX limited to 8 fps? That's splitting hairs in the market.

You fail to realize that Canon creates cameras, weasel words, and specifications to increase sales.
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Jun 17, 2013 16:20 |  #8

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The rumor site says huge megapixel.

Hmmmm....It used to be the high pixel camera was the high end spec (1Ds) and the high speed camera (1D) was a step down in price.

The 1DX is clearly the high speed camera. If they make a 30-50 MP but slower version of the 1DX, is that camera really the cheaper, lower grade (3D) option?


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Jun 17, 2013 16:22 |  #9

Could be a 2D as well, although that seems less likely.

koala yummies wrote in post #16039409 (external link)
Why not [doesn't Canon] hand out these test-cameras with a different strap (blank-strap, L3 strap, Rebel/non-body-labeled strap, EW-100dbIII)? They went through the trouble of blurring the photo so we can't see the camera... but Canon let it out of their possession with a big billboard neck strap advertising what it is. Whoever blurred the photo is trying to hide the body, but Canon clearly isn't. :lol:

It seems staged. Why would some Leica weenie be testing out Canon cameras and why would his little lightmeter or whatever strap be so strategically placed?


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Jun 17, 2013 16:33 |  #10

Osiriz wrote in post #16039438 (external link)
I hope not. I hate 1D-type bodies.

I hope so. I love 1D-type bodies. They're great.


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Jun 17, 2013 17:37 |  #11

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I hope so. I love 1D-type bodies. They're great.

If by "great" you mean big, bulky, heavy and that they take up too much space in the bag, then you are spot on.

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I'm trying to imagine what there is room for spec wise between the 1DX and 5D Mark III. What would this thing be? A weatherproof 5D3? A 1DX limited to 8 fps? That's splitting hairs in the market.

Resolution and sensor improvement. By that I mean an actual bump in general IQ and dynamic range. There is also room for a cure against Canon's trademarked banding.

Canon can add these improvements while crippling speed and AF. Then we'll have an awesome camera that won't be a threat against the 1DX, nor the 5D3.


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Jun 17, 2013 17:56 |  #12

I wouldn't mind if they integrated a vertical grip but made it significantly smaller than the 1D, something like the Kodak DCS-14n or smaller.

There's really no reason for a camera to be as big as the current "pro" models - it's not like they have film motors to allow for, which is why film cameras with vertical grips got that size. Somewhere along the way that archaic form-factor became de facto size for professional bodies. It's a design that could use an update.


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Jun 17, 2013 18:29 |  #13

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #16040147 (external link)
I wouldn't mind if they integrated a vertical grip but made it significantly smaller than the 1D, something like the Kodak DCS-14n or smaller.

There's really no reason for a camera to be as big as the current "pro" models - it's not like they have film motors to allow for, which is why film cameras with vertical grips got that size. Somewhere along the way that archaic form-factor became de facto size for professional bodies. It's a design that could use an update.

If you're a tripod-only shooter, then sure. But I prefer the current size of the DSLR bodies. They balances well with the lenses. Chicken-winging portrait photos aren't fun, is not ergonomic and likely bad for the wrists/arms in the long run.


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Jun 17, 2013 18:48 |  #14

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #16040147 (external link)
I wouldn't mind if they integrated a vertical grip but made it significantly smaller than the 1D, something like the Kodak DCS-14n or smaller.

There's really no reason for a camera to be as big as the current "pro" models - it's not like they have film motors to allow for, which is why film cameras with vertical grips got that size. Somewhere along the way that archaic form-factor became de facto size for professional bodies. It's a design that could use an update.

I think the current grip size is more dictated by ergonomics, rather than what fits inside that space. I'm not sure if you've ever owned a 1D, but they feel amazing. I sold mine (in part because it's too big/too heavy/too look-at-me for the stuff I do), but it's the best-feeling camera I've ever handled.


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Jun 17, 2013 19:14 |  #15

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If you're a tripod-only shooter, then sure. But I prefer the current size of the DSLR bodies. They balances well with the lenses. Chicken-winging portrait photos aren't fun, is not ergonomic and likely bad for the wrists/arms in the long run.

The range of Canon lenses differ in weight by pounds.

Considering that there is a lot of empty space inside 1D bodies, removing that space would make it smaller, but not significantly lighter - less magnesium is essentially what it comes down to. Any balancing advantage you've convinced yourself exists should still exist with a shorter 1D.

Anyway, it's just an idea. The current form factor is a throwback to a time when that size was a necessity, not necessarily preferred. That's not the case anymore. An integrated grip in a smaller form factor should please more people than it puts off - and those that want something bigger can always add weight or size to bulk it up. You can't, however go in the other direction.


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