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Jun 17, 2013 22:22 |  #1

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I'm debating where to go with this image.

I've posted it here and another group and got some comments from others.
Some range from they love it they way it is, to comments on the lack of reflection.

A bit of background:
This girl cried the entire time. She screamed. I managed to get these somehow and they are the best ones. I have another of her looking the same direction with her hand down with a cute smile, but the tear stains on her eyelashes were not well removed so I chose this one.

Others have said:
-they like it without the reflection. Leaving the concept of the hand on the face looking while in the mirror with a bit of wonder to the viewer

-some have said put her reflection in. This is a bit tricky: We hung this on the fence outdoors, the backdrop is 5ft wide and the mirror was huge. In order to snap her reflection, the mirror also reflected the fence, which looked pretty tacky. So that is the reason the mirror was turned this way to begin with: I didnt have a lot of option to remove the fence or tacky backgrounds. I have 1 pic with her reflection and I could possibly have it photoshopped on this one, but she had a pretty sour face.

-other idea is to photograph an older woman, possibly holding an apple in a matter of presenting it to her, and use that for the reflection (i.e.snow white looks in the mirror and sees the queen)

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Jun 18, 2013 06:51 |  #2

i agree the mirror needs something to make it magical, how about some sort of lighting effect?


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Jun 18, 2013 07:39 as a reply to  @ mike_311's post |  #3

The perspective needs to be altered...it has great potential as a concept, if...you reshoot the image to get the girl in the mirror as well as showing her looking into the mirror.
Then take an image of an older lady/witch/whatever to insert into the mirror using a water reflection such as in this technique... http://10steps.sg …tions-photoshop-tutorial/ (external link)
Remember to make the perspective in the new mirror image match with the original mirror image. I'm hoping that you can do minor PS work. ;)


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Jun 18, 2013 14:33 |  #4

I think it looks "off" because perspective wise one can see the mirror in different ways. When I first looked at the image, I got the impression that I was looking through a frame from behind it...through it.. I wasn't aware it was a mirror until I read it.
I can see the mirror now...with the reflection. but it still looks "off".

I gave a very quick edit for an idea of what you were talking about with the reflection. A "witch" in the reflection would be a good take on it too.

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Jun 18, 2013 15:16 |  #5

mike_311 wrote in post #16041534 (external link)
i agree the mirror needs something to make it magical, how about some sort of lighting effect?

This is not a bad idea. I downloaded some sparkle brushes in photoshop, maybe something like that in addition to the other suggestions?




  
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Jun 18, 2013 15:19 |  #6

chauncey wrote in post #16041626 (external link)
The perspective needs to be altered...it has great potential as a concept, if...you reshoot the image to get the girl in the mirror as well as showing her looking into the mirror.
Then take an image of an older lady/witch/whatever to insert into the mirror using a water reflection such as in this technique... http://10steps.sg …tions-photoshop-tutorial/ (external link)
Remember to make the perspective in the new mirror image match with the original mirror image. I'm hoping that you can do minor PS work. ;)

Thank you for the suggestions. I dont think a reshoot is possible with this child but perhaps in the future. I agree about the perspective. I think a smaller mirror might have been easier. The mirror was huge which limited my options where to face it without getting any grass, trees, ugly fence, etc. This child cried the entire time and probably doesnt want her picture taken again. LOL. her sisters were absolutely great and knew how to be princesses without help.




  
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Jun 18, 2013 15:20 |  #7

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I think it looks "off" because perspective wise one can see the mirror in different ways. When I first looked at the image, I got the impression that I was looking through a frame from behind it...through it.. I wasn't aware it was a mirror until I read it.
I can see the mirror now...with the reflection. but it still looks "off".

I gave a very quick edit for an idea of what you were talking about with the reflection. A "witch" in the reflection would be a good take on it too.

wow this is great and so easy thank you for doing that.
Maybe I should try a reflection but make the background of the mirror some bricks or something, to make it look like someone in a castle or something, not sure....




  
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Jun 19, 2013 00:00 |  #8

I want to thank everyone for the kind words and ideas.
So here we go this is what I had done. What do you think? I went with a different pose as well.

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I have also done a call to find a "queen" to put her in the mirror instead. That is the one I am really excited to see.



  
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Jun 19, 2013 00:36 |  #9

How about the real Snow White?

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Jun 19, 2013 00:58 |  #10

chauncey wrote in post #16041626 (external link)
The perspective needs to be altered...it has great potential as a concept, if...you reshoot the image to get the girl in the mirror as well as showing her looking into the mirror.
Then take an image of an older lady/witch/whatever to insert into the mirror using a water reflection such as in this technique... http://10steps.sg …tions-photoshop-tutorial/ (external link)
Remember to make the perspective in the new mirror image match with the original mirror image. I'm hoping that you can do minor PS work. ;)

I think I just understood what you were saying. It kinda confused me earlier. This is a great idea. When I get the queen to pose for me ill try it




  
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Jun 19, 2013 01:00 |  #11

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This is a good idea too. Now I guess I can't use someone else's pic but I was thinking what if I used the girls mom. She could dress as the real Snow White. The image would make them sort of look alike and maybe complete the concept of "aging", but in a nice way

Maybe?


Some great ideas thanks everyone




  
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This is a good idea too. Now I guess I can't use someone else's pic but I was thinking what if I used the girls mom. She could dress as the real Snow White. The image would make them sort of look alike and maybe complete the concept of "aging", but in a nice way

Maybe?


Some great ideas thanks everyone

If you'd like I can send you the shot of Snow White to pull the bust from.


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Jun 19, 2013 02:04 |  #13

That would be awesome! What do you need? email?




  
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Jun 19, 2013 04:41 |  #14

If you show her the pics and how "magical" she looks in them...she may be more willing to smile for another.

Edit: I should add that this is such a cute setting..and some really neat ideas popping up. I like her other pose as well.


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Jun 19, 2013 14:52 |  #15

Thats a good idea. I think I have found someone to be my queen. I will hope to get it soon and post back with the results. I am also going to try a few suggestions here.

quick ?: does the new image look to yellow? On my husbands computer all the yellows and oranges in my images look super bright in comparison to other colors. I think its his computer tho.




  
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