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are clients ready to hire such photographers?

 
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Jun 26, 2013 18:46 |  #1

Saw 2 ads today on craiglist

1. http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38823​08317.html (external link)

These newborn sessions are just missing light, exposure, post processing. Anyone else agree or anyone else thinks these are great photos?

2. http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38972​18073.html (external link)

"professional senior photos" image is displayed of like 16-year-old girl and not that great

3.http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38970​51964.html (external link)
Very bad post production in my opinion and no light in photos at all. Pictures look like my mother takes.


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Jun 26, 2013 19:01 |  #2

Craiglist photographers are bad... news at 11.




  
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Jun 26, 2013 19:23 |  #3

keep in mind the barrier to entry for this type of advertising - having an email address. That's it. Anyone can post anything they want to Craigslist, and there's no indication of whether people are actually booking these photographers. Just because an ad is posted doesn't measure potential business.


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Jun 26, 2013 20:10 |  #4

alexdesign wrote in post #16067945 (external link)
are clients ready to hire such photographers?

...yes they are.

Lots of people make money taking bad photos. Lots of people don't make money taking fantastic photos. And lots of people don't make money taking bad photos. And there are a few people who take fantastic photos and make lots of money.

The key is not the quality of the photos, but the quality of the business. A person hiring any of the photographers you've linked to know exactly what they are getting and they will get what they pay for. Don't begrudge them that right.

These guys aren't your competition. Let them do whatever they want to do and in some cases need to do: if someone wants to sell photos for $50.00 so they can make rent and buy food for their kids I'm not going to complain about it. They obviously aren't working to a sustainable business model: but you shouldn't let the actions of others worry you too much.

If you are marketing to the same people that are booking these particular Craigslist advertisers: you might need to rethink your marketing plan.


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Jun 27, 2013 01:28 |  #5

Some of the baby pics are alright the rest on the other links are horrible though. Some people will pay for this because they want pictures of their family. Especially newborn pictures, they're also cheap and people tend not to care about quality. As long as the shots are half decent people want them and will pay at a cheap price.


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Jun 27, 2013 02:25 |  #6

Well they don't last. One of my friends buddy tried to start a photography biz. Senior portraits for $40ish, that's it. Needless to say no takers in months even posting his ad on FB and c/l.


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Jun 27, 2013 11:24 |  #7

alexdesign wrote in post #16067945 (external link)
Saw 2 ads today on craiglist

1. http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38823​08317.html (external link)

These newborn sessions are just missing light, exposure, post processing. Anyone else agree or anyone else thinks these are great photos?

2. http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38972​18073.html (external link)

"professional senior photos" image is displayed of like 16-year-old girl and not that great

3.http://indianapolis.cr​aigslist.org/crs/38970​51964.html (external link)
Very bad post production in my opinion and no light in photos at all. Pictures look like my mother takes.

What you found is not uncommon on Craigslist, or anywhere else as a matter of fact. I peruse it from time to time and yes, there is a lot of bad photography being advertised and yes, there are a lot of cheap prices being advertised. Take a look on the other side with the jobs listings and you will see a lot of cheapskates wanting someone to shoot pics and offering almost nothing at all. On occasion, I do see someone offering to pay a photog a halfway decent amount, but it's rare.

I'm not a pro by any means, I'm just a student of the game at this point and I use what I see on Craigslist and on Facebook as an education to make myself better. I also keep my ear to ground to see what's happening locally. Part time wedding photogs who take great pics and charge appropriately are doing just fine and not losing business to the cheap folks. I still see enough bad portraits on Facebook by someone who is getting paid to shoot them, but if you are a pro and doing the right thing and getting your name out there, the cheap folks might make it a little harder, but the pros are not going to go away anytime soon.


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Jun 27, 2013 11:30 |  #8

If you look at the utter crap that gets compliments on facebook you will realize that the standard for what constitutes a "good" photograph has been devalued amongst the general public. So yes, there probably is somebody out there who will hire that sort of work.




  
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Jun 27, 2013 11:34 |  #9

here we go... yet again


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Jun 27, 2013 12:24 as a reply to  @ dasher108's post |  #10

What we need is licensing requirements. :)

Hint: This is sarcasm.




  
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Jun 27, 2013 12:41 |  #11

There will always be people like this. Don't think you compete with them. If someone chooses them over you, maybe it's for the best, right? Cream rises. Some customers and photographers deserve each other. Go for the customers you deserve.


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Jun 27, 2013 13:42 as a reply to  @ YamahaRob's post |  #12

I thought some of the photos looked acceptable. The lighting may need some adjustments. Craigslist is hit or miss depending on the area. I posted there a few years back, just to test, and got nothing (except some spam).


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Jun 27, 2013 13:53 as a reply to  @ juicedownload's post |  #13

CL is a cesspool of scammers, cheap people, poverty, and hookers. I'm still astonished it is still running




  
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Jun 27, 2013 13:54 |  #14

Fester wrote in post #16070275 (external link)
CL is a cesspool of scammers, cheap people, poverty, and hookers. I'm still astonished it is still running

Dude, your name is so appropriate!


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Jun 27, 2013 15:00 |  #15

Willie wrote in post #16070063 (external link)
What we need is licensing requirements.

What for? To make sure only really good photographers can set up in business?

That is pretty tough on people who want images of their family event but are on a very tight budget. Stop the low end photographers from working and you leave the low end customers nowhere to go. If somebodys budget is only $50, they won't be able to afford a "licensed" photographer so will miss out on having their memories saved for the future.

So long as the low end photographers are not misrepresenting themselves, by showing someone else's work as their own, then potential customers can see the standard they will be getting, and if they feel it is worth their $50 then that is nobody elses business to interfere and tell them they can't have a photographer.

Anybody who wants a higher standard has every opportunity to look around and hire a good photographer, and pay the higher price that will cost.




  
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