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Are you a T2i user planning to upgrade to 70D? I will!

 
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Jul 14, 2013 07:18 |  #31

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What dont you like about it exactly?

It doesnt swivel around randomly by itself, if you leave it in the normal position it's just like having a fixed screen.

Chances are you wont though, because it's bloody handy and it sucks going back to a camera without one.

I don't like it because it's the weakest link of the camera. Dust and dirt can get into the hinge or behind the screen (=extra cleaning work). It also makes the camera uglier (I don't like the extra "bump" where the hinge is). I don't see the use of it when having WiFi built-in (except for video maybe). For me built-in WiFi + EOS Remote app is the same as having an off-camera swivel screen.


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Jul 14, 2013 07:50 |  #32

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I really don't like the swivel screen.

You can always leave it in the fixed position.


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Jul 14, 2013 08:10 |  #33

mickeyb105 wrote in post #16118780 (external link)
You can always leave it in the fixed position.

In its fixed position:

- There can still get dust/dirt into the hinge, or behind the screen.
- It still makes the camera look uglier than a camera with a truly fixed screen.
- There's still a "bump" where the hinge is.

So no, leaving it in its fixed position isn't a solution for the problems I have with a swivel screen.


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Jul 14, 2013 08:14 |  #34

jocau wrote in post #16118824 (external link)
In its fixed position:

- There can still get dust/dirt into the hinge, or behind the screen.
- It still makes the camera look uglier than a camera with a truly fixed screen.
- There's still a "bump" where the hinge is.

So no, leaving it in its fixed position isn't a solution for the problems I have with a swivel screen.

Probably not the camera for YOU. ;)




  
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Jul 14, 2013 08:26 |  #35

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Probably not the camera for YOU. ;)

I know. I do like its specs though. So I will still keep an eye out for it.


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Jul 14, 2013 22:19 |  #36

jocau wrote in post #16118824 (external link)
In its fixed position:

- There can still get dust/dirt into the hinge, or behind the screen.
- It still makes the camera look uglier than a camera with a truly fixed screen.
- There's still a "bump" where the hinge is.

So no, leaving it in its fixed position isn't a solution for the problems I have with a swivel screen.

After 60K actuations in 20 months of shooting in rain, dust, sand, etc. at high school football games, baseball/softball games, beach portraits and more--no signs of wear on the screen or its hinges.

Why let vanity dictate your camera body?


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Jul 14, 2013 23:31 |  #37

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After 60K actuations in 20 months of shooting in rain, dust, sand, etc. at high school football games, baseball/softball games, beach portraits and more--no signs of wear on the screen or its hinges.

Why let vanity dictate your camera body?

Exactly.

Jocau is for some reason very against the flip out screen... I think it's much the same way that people were so afraid of digital at all when it first came out as a format. Just embrase the new technology, don't fear it ;)

I greatly prefer my OVF for shooting, but LV (especially with a flip out screen) can be extremely useful in some situations.


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Jul 15, 2013 09:49 as a reply to  @ EverydayGetaway's post |  #38

I will eventually upgrade at some point. I would like to say that my T2i is holding me back, but it is still a better camera than I am a photographer! I believe that I can get more out of it as my skills improve.

I am sure if I was to shoot with a higher end camera, I would probably get hooked. At some point rather than to keep chasing the newest technology, you reach the point where you say 'good enough.'

Really my T2i would likely have to die for me to replace it. It is not a money issue, if I wanted I could get a 5D3 tomorrow, but for what I do and hope to achieve I can't really justify sinking that kind of money into what is one hobby among many I have.

I still feel in the next few years we will see revolutionary changes in cameras rather than the current evolutionary changes we see now.


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Jul 15, 2013 10:50 |  #39

I upgraded already - to a 7D. :D Looks like the 70D sensor DR won't be any better than the 7D and autofocus is less flexible; in addition, I got a super holiday deal on a 7D at my favorite camera store and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. Very happy with my choice.


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Jul 15, 2013 11:16 |  #40

mickeyb105 wrote in post #16120772 (external link)
Why let vanity dictate your camera body?

The guy doesn't like the flip out screen. So what? Many don't like it, many do. Are we trolling?


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Jul 15, 2013 11:23 |  #41

If it gets good reviews then Yes.


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Jul 16, 2013 10:20 |  #42

well im looking at going from t2i to 5dm3 or now 70d when time comes (next March)... cant wait...
bonus time so will see by that time.. and by then i can see how the reviews are for the 70d and how it pairs with the field...


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Jul 16, 2013 11:00 |  #43

mickeyb105 wrote in post #16120772 (external link)
After 60K actuations in 20 months of shooting in rain, dust, sand, etc. at high school football games, baseball/softball games, beach portraits and more--no signs of wear on the screen or its hinges.

Why let vanity dictate your camera body?

It has nothing to do with vanity. I just don't like swivel screens for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I value my reasons, others don't. Different people, different tastes.


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