Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
Thread started 01 Jul 2013 (Monday) 15:58
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

60D Live View exposure anomaly

 
ettlz
Senior Member
254 posts
Likes: 12
Joined Feb 2007
     
Jul 01, 2013 15:58 |  #1

Just yesterday I noticed that stills taken with Live View were coming out around 1-2 stops darker than those taken using the usual, optical viewfinder with high shutter speeds (1/3200s or faster). This isn't a metering issue: I had the camera in full manual mode -- same shutter, aperture and fixed ISO, only the Live View ones came out darker.

My first feeling was that this could be impending shutter failure, but if that were the case I'd expect to see the underexposure with shots taken using the optical viewfinder too. But those have all turned out spot-on. This strange behaviour was quite consistent -- underexposed only when taken using Live View at faster shutter speeds. I also tried with the camera in high-speed continuous shooting mode, and got the same difference in exposure.

There is some evidence, looking at the depth-of-field in some of the darker shots, that the camera was taking it upon itself to stop down a bit (although that isn't certain). Can't see any marked differences in noise, so I don't think it's a random change of ISO.

This happened with all my lenses. Oddly, this first started after I acquired a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 OS lens, although this may be coincidence. I decoupled the lens, removed the battery, and left the camera overnight. It's now back to normal. The only thing I can think of is that something got seriously confused in the camera's software and is now reset.

Anyone else seen anything like this?


Canon EOS 60D :: Canon EOS 7D :: Canon EOS 10 :: Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM :: Manual-focus Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM :: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
boerewors
Goldmember
Avatar
1,948 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Sep 2009
Location: South African living in Indonesia
     
Jul 01, 2013 18:09 |  #2

What i know is that when a camera is in live view it will adjust the aperture to save your sensor from being fried by ambient light whereas normal viewfinder viewing is always wide open aperture. So somewhere along the line your camera must have been getting confused. Were you outdoors when it happened? Well if you said it went away after resetting the camera, i wouldnt worry too much unless the problem regularly repeats its self. Weird things often happen to cameras.


The most important piece of gear you own, resides in your head and its called your brain.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kenshap
Senior Member
367 posts
Joined Dec 2010
Location: What exit?
     
Jul 01, 2013 18:35 |  #3

Did you cover the viewfinder in live view with the eyepiece cover? I think I remember reading the viewfinder has to be covered to prevent confusing the sensor.


Canon T6s (battery grip) | Canon T4i (aftermarket battery grip) | Canon T2i | Canon EF-S 18-55 IS | Canon EF-S 55 - 250 | Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 | Canon EF-S 10-22mm | Canon EF 100mm f2.8L Macro | Canon 40mm

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
11,258 posts
Likes: 1527
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Jul 01, 2013 19:37 |  #4

Did you cover the viewfinder in live view with the eyepiece cover?

If you followed the instruction its that black rubber gadget you mounted on the neck strap. Page 124 of the manual.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
oldvultureface
Goldmember
Avatar
4,279 posts
Gallery: 85 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 385
Joined Jun 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana USA
     
Jul 01, 2013 22:32 |  #5

kenshap wrote in post #16082000 (external link)
Did you cover the viewfinder in live view with the eyepiece cover? I think I remember reading the viewfinder has to be covered to prevent confusing the sensor.

John from PA wrote in post #16082168 (external link)
If you followed the instruction its that black rubber gadget you mounted on the neck strap. Page 124 of the manual.

As an aside, live view does not require the viewfinder to be covered. Exposure is set using only evaluative metering on the sensor itself. When using the viewfinder, exposure is read from the focusing screen. That's when extraneous light entering the viewfinder can affect exposure.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ettlz
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
254 posts
Likes: 12
Joined Feb 2007
     
Jul 02, 2013 00:52 |  #6

kenshap wrote in post #16082000 (external link)
Did you cover the viewfinder in live view with the eyepiece cover? I think I remember reading the viewfinder has to be covered to prevent confusing the sensor.

That shouldn't make any difference when in 'M' mode. No form of camera metering is being used to control the exposure.


Canon EOS 60D :: Canon EOS 7D :: Canon EOS 10 :: Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM :: Manual-focus Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM :: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
hollis_f
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,649 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 85
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Sussex, UK
     
Jul 02, 2013 03:58 |  #7

Examples with full exif?


Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll complain about the withdrawal of his free fish entitlement.
Gear Website (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ettlz
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
254 posts
Likes: 12
Joined Feb 2007
     
Jul 02, 2013 12:36 |  #8

hollis_f wrote in post #16083136 (external link)
Examples with full exif?

It's behaving normally at the moment, and I scrubbed all the old ones. Will post as soon as this happens again and I can take controlled shots... there may well be something interesting lurking in the EXIF. All I can add right now is that it'll be two shots of the same scene, with the same light and exactly the same shooting settings -- but the Live View one will be darker.

[Comment about slightly uneven exposure in Live View removed: had Silent Shooting on, known phenomenon...]


Canon EOS 60D :: Canon EOS 7D :: Canon EOS 10 :: Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM :: Manual-focus Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM :: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,693 views & 0 likes for this thread, 6 members have posted to it.
60D Live View exposure anomaly
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1050 guests, 111 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.