Canon EOS 70D officially announced!

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EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16084722
You wouldn't be able to tell by looking at it, even the 5D3 is coated with plastic.

Maybe someone coated your 5D Mk III with plastic but mine has a nice thick layer of paint over magnesium alloy.

Keyan wrote in post #16084742
Why is the euro site so much nicer than the US site? The US site looks like something from geocities from the 90s. You'd think they would want to overhaul it.

I've said the same thing. The US site is a joke compared to the European site. I find much more useful info on the EU site.

Anybody have any issues with the 70D using only SD cards and not CF cards? At least Canon used the UHS-1 standard for the card slot. Why they didn't put this on the 5DIII is a mystery. It's on my SL1 for crying out loud!

Looks like the 70D is a tiny bit smaller than the 60D

http://gizmodo.com …deo-dslr-from-c-642516287

Thanks for the info Frank...and for the Canon Euro link. As was mentioned, it has more info and looks a lot better than the US site.

70D Dimensions (WxHxD) 139.0 x 104.3 x 78.5mm
60D Dimensions (WxHxD) 144.5 x 105.8 x 78.6mm

The same size where it counts - the grip. And both are larger than the 7D in this dimension.

jocau wrote in post #16084739
Well, I still think that it's the weakest link of the camera and it also kills a bit of the looks of the camera imo. I simply don't fully trust the durability of it (even though I'm very careful with my camera related stuff). But the fact that it's the weakest link and that it can get damaged easier than the other camera parts, gives me a somewhat unpleasant feeling.

Indeed, I don't use CA and green box modes. However I did use such modes exclusively on my previous camera (Powershot A40), but made sure I had enough knowledge before buying my 550D so I could totally ignore these modes.

And why shouldn't I have the right to prefer a fixed screen instead of a swivel screen? I gave you my, in my opinion valid, reasons. You can also look at it the other way around. Because you and some other people want a swivel screen, Canon should ignore the people who want a fixed screen? Hell, using a fixed screen would even make the camera cheaper.

This is not a body targeted at pros. This is a body targeted to "prosumers", or enthusiasts who are still mostly hobbyists who want a camera with more than a rebel, but isn't "hardcore" professional. The vast majority of those people want flip and touch screens. Canon isn't going to put themselves at a disadvantage to the market the camera is targeted at. If you drop the thing, the odds are that it is going to go lens first into the ground, in which case the screen type doesn't matter at all. Your mount and lens are likely to be where things go wrong.

I have yet to see this huge outcry of failed flip LCD mechanisms. They have been on camcorders for many, many, years, without problems. Being able to fold it in for transport, or even for shooting when not CHIMPing is extremely useful. Mine is as solid as the day I bought the camera.

FEChariot wrote in post #16084648
Would it have helped if I ended my post with a [\end sarcasm] ?

Which is why I ended mine with lol..
Just have to keep this fire stoked you know..lol

hollis_f wrote in post #16084185
Having the same number of points doesn't mean the AF is the same. Detailed specs for the 70D - LINK - don't mention the dedicated AF processor, so it seems a reasonable guess that it doesn't exist. The 70D also lacks the 'Spot' and 'Single-point Expanded' AF modes of the 7D. The latter will be especially missed by bird shooters.

Agreed.

tkbslc wrote in post #16084202
Well of course going between cameras with different layouts will be a bit difficult. It is hard to go by feel when it keeps changing. That doesn't make the 60D layout bad or "rebel-like", just not the same as your other cameras. If you only have cameras with the 60D layout, it becomes second nature and actually, to me, has become preferable to the other layout in time.

I will agree that it is nice to have the same layout for all your cameras for this reason, so if you were looking to homogenize your multi-camera kit, I can see your disappointment. If you had said that, I would not be arguing with you.

At that is my point. 40D/50D had that same basic and current layout. Stuff was moved/removed to go more towards a rebel layout. Or should I say 'rebel with one wheel on the back'. And let's be honest here. That inner d-pad thing is crap.

jocau wrote in post #16084383
Because it's the weakest spot/link of the camera. Dust/dirt can easily get behind the screen or in the hinges. It makes the whole construction less sturdy imo. Can't really see the use of a swivel screen when I can control the camera using the EOS Remote app. Maybe it's nice for video, but I don't do video.

Agreed here.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16084467
There were prior bodies with no swivel screen, yet no side buttons or bottom buttons. Seems like a strange thing to get your knickers in a knot, so to speak, but whatever.

It's not so strange really. Depends on your use.

Keyan wrote in post #16084708
Same material as the 60D.

My 60D looks almost brand new after 2 years of regular use. The plastic doesn't scuff, no bright scratches in the paint, it's extremely durable. I don't get the stigma against it other than people who haven't used one for a while.

I hear this over and over about this camera or that camera. The reality is some of us are really and truly using our gear. My Sony Nex 5N looks brand new too. Because I only use it for family trips. However I USE my gear. I shoot motorsports, commercial automotive and print work. I shoot regardless of weather and I protect my gear. I don't abuse it but the reality is for some of us we have to shoot and get results regardless of environment, weather or anything else. And we are already in a busy/rough place.

More moving parts means more space for water, dirt and whatever else to get in. Some highlights from the past year...

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Finally a worthy companion to my 5D3

Immaculens wrote in post #16084161
just an aside but with the 6D only going up to 1/4000th shutter - it would have limited use with fast primes... even my hotcake 2.8 needed 1/5000th the other day

NDs rule. Shot a whole afternoon in direct sun: 1.2 @ under 1/500th with a 4 stopper.

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #16084171
I hope the low light/high ISO performance is close to that of the 6D

This is turning into a key differentiator. If they give it to you with the 70D, you will be less likely to pay the extra for a 7D2. Keeping the 6D/7D twins as the minimum for certain features, allows them to recoupe the millions such features cost to develop.

gjl711 wrote in post #16084218
It seems that the new AF is really geared towards video only. It doesn't sound like there will be any improvement for still shooters.

Like wifi, dual pixel sensors will spread over the lineup. Assuming no drawbacks, it's the natural companion to live view and will become essential for the M line - including for stills. Relevancy for still shots in other models will take more time.

BTW, they appear to be rectangular receptors, functional pairs under square optics. This doesn't suggest the ability to double effective resolution, even if contrast autofocus is turned off. 40MP is unlikely.

dinanm3atl wrote in post #16084835
Agreed.

At that is my point. 40D/50D had that same basic and current layout. Stuff was moved/removed to go more towards a rebel layout. Or should I say 'rebel with one wheel on the back'. And let's be honest here. That inner d-pad thing is crap.


I hear this over and over about this camera or that camera. The reality is some of us are really and truly using our gear. My Sony Nex 5N looks brand new too. Because I only use it for family trips. However I USE my gear. I shoot motorsports, commercial automotive and print work. I shoot regardless of weather and I protect my gear. I don't abuse it but the reality is for some of us we have to shoot and get results regardless of environment, weather or anything else. And we are already in a busy/rough place.

More moving parts means more space for water, dirt and whatever else to get in. Some highlights from the past year...

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Impressive. And clearly the XXD line (as Canon has made it since the 60D) is not targeted towards or designed for this type of use. If you want that kind of rugged use, you get to pay for the higher end bodies that are designed for it.

That said, I've used my 60D quite a bit, taken it on several trips, and it has held up well. I won't claim to have exposed it to the conditions you have exposed your cameras to - I know it's not designed for that. Also the D-pad is just fine. It's an 8 way selector with a button in the middle. The mini joystick is..an 8 way selector with a button in the middle. Personally I don't have a problem with it, and I have been using the camera for over 2 years. How long have you used a d-pad to see if it is really that bad?

dinanm3atl wrote in post #16084835
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I hear this over and over about this camera or that camera. The reality is some of us are really and truly using our gear. My Sony Nex 5N looks brand new too. Because I only use it for family trips. However I USE my gear. I shoot motorsports, commercial automotive and print work. I shoot regardless of weather and I protect my gear. I don't abuse it but the reality is for some of us we have to shoot and get results regardless of environment, weather or anything else. And we are already in a busy/rough place.

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And Canon makes "Pro" cameras because they understand what you are talking about. The 70D is not a pro camera. What is so hard to understand?

Let's not get into that whole topic of amateur, prosumer, consumer, professional, etc. There is no good end to that entire debate. That ends up being worse than the FF vs crop discussions.