Canon EOS 70D officially announced!

mojodawg wrote in post #16160157
I disagree. The 70D makes the 7D obsolete imo. They match up in key specs and the 70D has more features. Aside from the 100% viewfinder coverage and build material, what else is there to the 7D that gives it the upper hand?

The 7D has:

- Two extra AF modes: Spot AF & AF Point Expansion
- Higher FPS
- Bigger buffer
- Joystick
...

For some people those things matter.

Feature comparisons are easy. Without raw samples, sensor comparisons are impossible. Also, real AF comparison is not yet possible. We just have to wait for real production examples to hit the streets before we truly know.

The 7D and the 70D both have their advantages and disadvantages, its which one is right for you.

The 7D mk 2 rumored specs appears to be almost 1dx like, with 10fps, 24mp sensor, I dont know what af it may get though!

We wont know till Canon makes their announcement!

The 7D Mk II will make the 7D truly absolete!

ZIM SOGEN wrote in post #16160580
The 7D and the 70D both have their advantages and disadvantages, its which one is right for you.

The 7D Mk II will make the 7D truly absolete!

You've never held a camera. How would you know? What experience do you base this on?

For reasons already stated, I would say it's more like 'the 70D makes the 7D less worth paying x more for.' The issue is not one of specifications but timing. The older camera is about to look out of time in the current lineup. But canon already knew this and already has additional changes in the works. Fast forward a year and all this consternation goes away.

Yaaaaaa! We're back to pitting a 4yr old xd model against an unreleased xxd model!! Woohoo!
*end sarcasm*

Mackeral wrote in post #16160590
You've never held a camera. How would you know? What experience do you base this on?

Dude, quit stalking the guy...

jocau wrote in post #16160502
The 7D has:

- Two extra AF modes: Spot AF & AF Point Expansion
- Higher FPS
- Bigger buffer
- Joystick
...

For some people those things matter.

Ok. Two extra AF modes. The rest is negligible.
The 70D has...
- A whole new AF system, which actually makes taking video usable. Tracking someone or something with manual focusing is ridiculous.
-Digic 5+ processor
- Touchscreen. (Looked at it on a t5i and I find this faster to make changes)
- Articulating screen
- Wifi
- In-camera HDR
- Remote control from phone or tablet
- Expanded ISO range

So again, why would anyone want to purchase a 7D over a 70D right now?
I believe they should have come out with a 7dm2 first because they cannibalized the 7D with the 70D.

Hollis - As far as image quality...I wouldn't expect much better than the current crop sensor. Anything better would be a bonus, but why does everyone seem to think they will get 6D quality in a camera like this? Give it up. If you care that much about IQ, go to full frame.

^^ negligible, tell that to a sports shooter who needs a big buffer. All is relative, but there seems to be a lot of good features also.

I fear that the new AF on the 70D would be just like the so called new AF on the 700D/T5i, just over hyped rubbish.

So I not really expecting anything really better, except the sensor, better to be pleasantly surprised, than to be dissapointed!

Future reviews in October we will see, hopefully some of you may show us the 70D performance!

mojodawg wrote in post #16161200
Ok. Two extra AF modes. The rest is negligible.
The 70D has...
- A whole new AF system, which actually makes taking video usable. Tracking someone or something with manual focusing is ridiculous.
-Digic 5+ processor
- Touchscreen. (Looked at it on a t5i and I find this faster to make changes)
- Articulating screen
- Wifi
- In-camera HDR
- Remote control from phone or tablet
- Expanded ISO range

So again, why would anyone want to purchase a 7D over a 70D right now?
I believe they should have come out with a 7dm2 first because they cannibalized the 7D with the 70D.

Hollis - As far as image quality...I wouldn't expect much better than the current crop sensor. Anything better would be a bonus, but why does everyone seem to think they will get 6D quality in a camera like this? Give it up. If you care that much about IQ, go to full frame.

You forgot the 100% viewfinder. So if not cutting limbs off at ackward spots is important to you, you need to frame loose on the 70D to prevent that and than crop after the fact to get it right which could Cost you the extra 2mp right there.

I would say for anyone coming from a smaller body like a Rebel or 60D, the 70D is still probably the better buy. Those coming from lager xxD bodies might not like the ergonomics and thus make the choice harder.

FEChariot wrote in post #16161230
You forgot the 100% viewfinder. So if not cutting limbs off at ackward spots is important to you, you need to frame loose on the 70D to prevent that and than crop after the fact to get it right which could Cost you the extra 2mp right there.

I would say for anyone coming from a smaller body like a Rebel or 60D, the 70D is still probably the better buy. Those coming from lager xxD bodies might not like the ergonomics and thus make the choice harder.

yes, I mentioned that in my original post.

jaomul wrote in post #16161211
^^ negligible, tell that to a sports shooter who needs a big buffer. All is relative, but there seems to be a lot of good features also.

The raw shot buffer is 16 frames on a 60D and 15 frames on a 7D. The difference is that the CF can clear faster than an SD, however, SD has made some significant improvements over the last couple of years.

Anyway if the sports guy can't get his shot in 15-16 frames, he should be shooting video.

hollis_f wrote in post #16160375
Bwaaahahahhhahaaaaa! What a load of poppycock and balderdash. How on earth could you possibly make such a statement when you have no knowledge about the AF and IQ performance of the 70D?

Ha. I forgot to account for the poppycockses and the balderdasheries. Those two features alone make the 7D worth buying over the 70D.

So do you think the AF and the IQ will not be improved with the new sensor? I mean if Canon wants to hand over the business to Nikon, thats a good recipe. I made my statement based on published features and that alone makes the 70D a better buy. Better IQ and AF would be a slam dunk.