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Aug 03, 2013 18:07 as a reply to  @ post 16178755 |  #1171

No chance of it being junk...its will certainly give the 7D a run for its money


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Aug 03, 2013 20:18 |  #1172

Lone Rider wrote in post #16178567 (external link)
Zim lost it in another thread...https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=16159110#po​st16159110

I think he was trying to say it was better off holding off to 2014 as there was a much better camera coming out. (amongst other stuff)

Like many others you can easily fall into the trap of the ‘waiting game’ hoping soon after a new model is released they'll come down in price, but then rumors start circulating on another new model and so they wait and the frustration builds.

The 70D is going to be Canons flagship prosumer for a long time so theres no point getting hung up on newer models.

If its suits the purpose and you like it...simply get one...:D

The trolling on that tread I just saw.... I wish I saw it sooner.... Sad as it is truth, trolling and posts like that are what make me smile. ;)

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No chance of it being junk...its will certainly give the 7D a run for its money

Posts like this make me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing I bought it.


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Aug 03, 2013 20:53 |  #1173

Ranger187 wrote in post #16178986 (external link)
Posts like this make me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing I bought it.

It was a good choice if you have more need for the 70D's articulating screen and the live view autofocus capability than the 7D's extra autofocus modes (spot and expanded point) and speed.

If in terms of your specific use, the 70D and 7D are essentially equivalent, then you'd probably be better off with a 7D since you can acquire one for less than a 70D and put the difference into glass.


Regardless, that's just the 70D compared with the 7D. In "absolute" terms, I think your 70D will prove to be a real winner of a camera, and you'll find that there is really nothing photographically that you can't do with it. Same with the 7D.


Modern cameras are so incredibly capable that the choice of camera body no longer matters all that much unless your needs are extremely demanding. The images you can capture with any of them and some decent glass are just astounding. We are very spoiled these days. :)


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Aug 03, 2013 21:02 |  #1174

Lone Rider wrote in post #16178567 (external link)
If its suits the purpose and you like it...simply get one...:D

Mine is preordered :-)




  
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Aug 04, 2013 03:51 |  #1175

kcbrown wrote in post #16179020 (external link)
It was a good choice if you have more need for the 70D's articulating screen and the live view autofocus capability than the 7D's extra autofocus modes (spot and expanded point) and speed.

If in terms of your specific use, the 70D and 7D are essentially equivalent, then you'd probably be better off with a 7D since you can acquire one for less than a 70D and put the difference into glass.


Regardless, that's just the 70D compared with the 7D. In "absolute" terms, I think your 70D will prove to be a real winner of a camera, and you'll find that there is really nothing photographically that you can't do with it. Same with the 7D.


Modern cameras are so incredibly capable that the choice of camera body no longer matters all that much unless your needs are extremely demanding. The images you can capture with any of them and some decent glass are just astounding. We are very spoiled these days. :)

For some reason I can't stop thinking that Canon will add those 2 extra modes to the 70D via a firmware update once the 7D2 is out. I'm just guessing they left them out so the 7D sales would not suffer too much.


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Aug 04, 2013 10:22 |  #1176

Imaging Resource has posted 70D raw files from ISO 100 up to ISO 25600:

http://www.imaging-resource.com …canon-70d/canon-70dA7.HTM (external link)


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Aug 04, 2013 10:58 |  #1177

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Imaging Resource has posted 70D raw files from ISO 100 up to ISO 25600:

http://www.imaging-resource.com …canon-70d/canon-70dA7.HTM (external link)

Hmmm.. Just took a quick peek at the ISO6400 samples and compared to the 7D ISO6400 and it's not looking good for the 70D. They look significantly more noisy. Time to find some better 7D raw samples hopefully the same image.


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Aug 04, 2013 11:07 |  #1178

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Hmmm.. Just took a quick peek at the ISO6400 samples and compared to the 7D ISO6400 and it's not looking good for the 70D. They look significantly more noisy. Time to find some better 7D raw samples hopefully the same image.

to be honest, I had a similar impression. I used LR 5.2 and I know support for the 70D is listed as "preliminary" so maybe Adobe has some more work to do. Comparing apples to oranges, the ISO 6400 shots look to be 1/2 stop worse than my 7D.

I'm going to chalk this up to a poor raw conversion, I just don't think the files should look this bad. DPP can't open the files yet and RawDigger renders with a greenish cast so I think we still have a while to wait before we see what the 70D is capable of. It's gotta be better than this :)


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Aug 04, 2013 11:37 |  #1179

I used arc and had everything set to defaults. It does look as if it has a less aggressive AA though. The image is a tad sharper. Noisier but also sharper.


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Aug 04, 2013 11:48 |  #1180

I agree, the 70D raw files has a bit more detail. I found DPP 3.13.20 on the Canon Europe site and the conversion is a bit better, any valid EOS serial# should work to get the download:

http://www.canon-europe.com …7040&page=1&typ​e=download (external link)


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Aug 04, 2013 22:14 |  #1181

gjl711 wrote in post #16180172 (external link)
Hmmm.. Just took a quick peek at the ISO6400 samples and compared to the 7D ISO6400 and it's not looking good for the 70D. They look significantly more noisy. Time to find some better 7D raw samples hopefully the same image.

I don't see the raw files to compare, but the comparison of jpg at 6400 looks much better than the 7D. Looks better than the Nikon D7100 all the way up to 25,600.


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Aug 05, 2013 00:13 |  #1182

hmmm...i've just seen the raw files from 70D from the site above, and did a comparison on their database from a 7D @ ISO 6400, and viewing on 100% at the "mug" picture part, In my opinion, the 70D has lesser noise compared to 7D, just a little though. And It is a bit sharper and has a little detail on it.




  
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Aug 05, 2013 05:10 as a reply to  @ Keema's post |  #1183

Having read all that I can on the 70D and knowing life is a gamble :) I'm pre-ordering today.
In the Canon world I'm a 6D user and specify that camera for astro work....my other love is macro and that has the 70D's name written all over it. If I'm in the mood to hunt birds on the fly or a friend asks for shots from the game I use an A77.
The most critical and first factoid was whether the mp65 and Sigma 150 macro were compatible; using the s-phone as remote and the Helicon app next in importance...strange priorities for some but that's what mattered to me.
Yep, like many I'll be hoping the team at Magic Lantern takes a crack at this body just for an integral intervalometer :)


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Aug 05, 2013 05:36 |  #1184

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Having read all that I can on the 70D and knowing life is a gamble :) I'm pre-ordering today.
In the Canon world I'm a 6D user and specify that camera for astro work....my other love is macro and that has the 70D's name written all over it.

Hmmmm, I must be particularly stupid this morning so you'll have to explain. Just what features of the 70D seem so well suited to macro work?


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Aug 05, 2013 05:44 |  #1185

Id say swivel screen helps macro work


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