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Jul 06, 2013 14:57 |  #1

I swear i searched. My father was very big into photography back in the late 60's, all of the 70's and 80's. He has thousands of slides, negatives, 120 negatives and countless other items that I want to digitize. I had a brookstone scanner a few years ago and it was ok to just upload my negatives i had. but it was slowwwwww and the light source hit or miss.

i've seen some people using lenses to take photos of the slides using lightbox or backlighting them. Is this possible to do with the 50 1.8 (nifty fifty)? If so, what do i need to buy or make for it to work properly? If not, i'll probably try and find a used canoscan 9000 since i have so many scans.


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Jul 06, 2013 15:04 |  #2

Shooting 24x36mm slide onto APS-C size (about 15 x 22.5mm) requires reproduction ratio of 0.62x, which is putting you into 'macro' focus requirement. The 50mm f/1.8 only focuses to 0.45m, and if you use 25mm extension tube it would permit 0.65x repro ratio.


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Jul 06, 2013 15:05 |  #3

so i should probably look for a decent scanner then. I just hate having a all in one at home that doesn't do slide/negative scanning and also potentially another flatbed scanner.


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Jul 06, 2013 15:11 |  #4

Scanning is hardly a fast process! There is not only the time for the scanner to scan and the software to separate multiple slides into separate files, but there is also time consumed by cleaning the negatives so that the result is not a dust laden capture like this one deliberately scanned with no cleaning prior to scan...

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whether you optically shoot or electronically scan, you need to prep the slides!

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Jul 06, 2013 15:15 |  #5

are there many scanners out there that will do 120 size negatives?


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Jul 06, 2013 15:27 |  #6

For 120 check out a Epson V600 Perfection $200 range. For 35mm if you really want to use the camera
check out a slide duplicator. As far as cleaning scan as is and clean up the keepers in PS.




  
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Jul 06, 2013 16:27 |  #7

2005GLI wrote in post #16096798 (external link)
are there many scanners out there that will do 120 size negatives?

There are still a couple being made, but they are not cheap.
Nikon Coolscan 9000 was a very nice one but has been discontinued.
But you might find one on e-bay.

Pacific Image PrimeFilm 120 Pro (external link) does 120 plus slides and negatives.

Plustek OpticFilm 120 Film Scanner (external link) also does 120 plus slide and negatives

You also might want to look thru this thread, where he made a slide
holder, and used his Macro to take photos of the slide. Using this
method you should be able to do any size of negative/slide.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1237864

Then there are contraptions like this for using your camera to take
photos of slides.
http://www.amazon.com …p_p_0/183-0426643-1235018 (external link)

http://www.amazon.com …s_e_6/185-9083118-9936607 (external link)

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Jul 06, 2013 17:33 |  #8

Evan Idler wrote in post #16096975 (external link)
Then there are contraptions like this for using your camera to take
photos of slides.
http://www.amazon.com …p_p_0/183-0426643-1235018 (external link)

http://www.amazon.com …s_e_6/185-9083118-9936607 (external link)

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Then you read the comments from buyers...

Opteka:

"Getting the slide squared up and focused was difficult and time consuming. I ended up buying a scanner with a slide template and got the result I wanted, but spent $200."

"To get slide full framed, you have to have a lens longer than the standard 18-55 although you may have to use a close focusing filter on some lenses. "

"I found it to be a pain to use and it did not give me the quality i was hoping for, i had about 250 slides to copy. Getting the slide squared up and focused was difficult and time consuming. I ended up buying a scanner with a slide template and got the result I wanted"

Polaroid:

"This unit does not work. Could not get slides in focus no matter what I tried or what lens I used. "

"Polaroid should be ashamed to put their name on this product. The uncoated closeup lens is barely capable of forming an image. I was only able to use it by borrowing a good macro-lens..."

General comment:
" The results from any combination of a general photography lens and close up lens are too soft. "


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Jul 06, 2013 19:42 |  #9

im watching an epson now. one of the holders looks like a 120 holder, but im not really concerned about those. mainly the hundreds if not thousands of slides and negatives.


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Jul 06, 2013 20:17 |  #10

Evan Idler wrote in post #16096975 (external link)
There are still a couple being made, but they are not cheap.
Nikon Coolscan 9000 was a very nice one but has been discontinued.
But you might find one on e-bay.

Pacific Image PrimeFilm 120 Pro (external link) does 120 plus slides and negatives.

Plustek OpticFilm 120 Film Scanner (external link) also does 120 plus slide and negatives

You also might want to look thru this thread, where he made a slide
holder, and used his Macro to take photos of the slide. Using this
method you should be able to do any size of negative/slide.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1237864

Then there are contraptions like this for using your camera to take
photos of slides.
http://www.amazon.com …p_p_0/183-0426643-1235018 (external link)

http://www.amazon.com …s_e_6/185-9083118-9936607 (external link)

--Evan

with that setup, could I use my 50mm? I dont have a dedicated macro lens like the 100mm.


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Jul 07, 2013 00:40 |  #11

By Canon's specs (external link), it doesn't look like it would have enough Magnification.

Closest focusing distance (m) 0.45
Maximum magnification (x) 0.15

But with a 25mm Extension (external link) tube it would.
Magnification - Extension Tube EF25 II 0.68 - 0.53

With a set like the Kenko Auto Extension Tube Set DG 12mm, 20mm, and 36mm (external link)
or the less expensive ones fromPolaroid (external link)you could even get a little more magnification.

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Jul 07, 2013 01:14 |  #12

Also, if you build the Wooen slide holder, you focal distance would be slightly different
with the 50 f/1.8 and extension tube, than his 100 Macro, but it would just be a matter
of moving the block for holding the slide, until you are able to focus it and fill the
frame, then screw it down. Probably somewhere between 11 and 15 inches depending on
the exact extension tube you used.

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Jul 07, 2013 07:49 |  #13

If you have thousands of slides and negatives to copy just go out and get yourself a scanner. You
have no idea how long it will take you trying to use the camera method. With the scanner you can do
(12) negatives or (4) slides at one time in the 35mm format 120 one at a time. The Epson V-600 is on
sale a B&H Photo for $198.98 with free shipping. Great reviews check it out truly the only way to go.




  
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Jul 08, 2013 13:16 |  #14

I bid on this scanner last night and won. All thats missing is the cd's. I can download the drivers thru epson's website. So im good.

http://cgi.ebay.com …ame=ADME:B:EOIB​SA:US:3160 (external link)


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Jul 12, 2013 13:54 |  #15

I recently purchased a DBtech negative scanner (http://www.amazon.com …81&sr=8-3&keywords=dbtech (external link)). I just tried it last night and the pictures come out horrible in my opinion. The color is off, the details are blurry. I'm going to return it and try either a Canon or Epson V600. I was surprised because this scanner got decent reviews on amazon. Thank I thought maybe I was expecting too much. So my question is, what should I expect from scanned negatives? I was hoping for something close to the original printed photo. I'm scanning in wedding pics from 10 years ago.
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