Canon EOS M or Canon EOS Rebel SL1?

Vixen89 wrote in post #16107600
The no viewfinder thing in the EOS M doesn't turn you guys off?

Not really, but my M is on order so we'll have to see. I'm also not quite prepared to pay another $300-700+ for a viewfinder. I wasn't prepared to buy the M at $800 last summer, but for $300 including a pretty good pancake prime? Sold.

hecto wrote in post #16107641
True, though the 22mm might not be my first pick for a fixed focal length.

Went through my vacation photos from this past winter, and probably 75%+ were in the 17-25mm range, and many that weren't were when I was just too lazy to walk a little closer to correctly frame the shot. 22mm is perfect for me (on a crop), had a 50mm and hated it due to it's "in between" feel (too close for many things, too far for others).


edit: By the way, I didn't vote in the poll because they're two separate cameras with two separate intended uses. Period. If you want the full functionality of a DSLR, you still need a DSLR. It will AF faster, be easier to compose pictures with the VF, accept lenses without an adapter and have the full manual controls laid out in a better way. The advantage of the M is compactness, whether you're using the pancake lens or even the new zooms. You can throw it in a pocket (with the pancake), it's easier to pack for a trip, it doesn't look as intimidating when you pull it out, etc. If those things are more important to you, get the M. If you feel you need the additional functionality, get the SL1. Simple as that.

Vixen89 wrote in post #16107600
The no viewfinder thing in the EOS M doesn't turn you guys off?

No.

I love OVF on DSLR, but on a lil camera like the M I'd much rather prefer shooting with the rear LCD screen just like my phone camera. I find it more intuitive that way.

kin2son wrote in post #16108835
No.

I love OVF on DSLR, but on a lil camera like the M I'd much rather prefer shooting with the rear LCD screen just like my phone camera. I find it more intuitive that way.

I get this but what about phones like the s4 wouldn't having an M be redundant?

Vixen89 wrote in post #16108856
I get this but what about phones like the s4 wouldn't having an M be redundant?

Do you seriously not get the difference between a microscopic sensor in the S4 and an APS-C sensor in the M?

Or are you just trolling?

kumicho wrote in post #16108872
Do you seriously not get the difference between a microscopic sensor in the S4 and an APS-C sensor in the M?

Or are you just trolling?

Okay I'm sorry I didn't mean to light a fire or anything, I am honestly asking and no I wasn't aware there was a APS-C sensor in the M at all. I heard a lot of people bash talking about the M over on FB and the convenience of having a phone rather than the little M. I'm actually quite surprised a lot of people voted the M over the SL1 but that may be because of the recent sales.

Different tools for different purposes. Wife has an SL1, just got an EOS-M, one is her DSLR for the typical usages of a DSLR, the other will replace our S100 we throw in her purse when out and about traveling, and a "2nd body" that will go with me to racetracks for static shots around the pits and garages. Saves me the hassle of putting a wider angle on my 7D in place of my 70-300L.

I couldn't see replacing one with the other for our intended usages.

Great sale price on the EOS-M but does that mean Canon is coming out with another EOS-M model or are they dropping the M series line all together?

kumicho wrote in post #16108872
Do you seriously not get the difference between a microscopic sensor in the S4 and an APS-C sensor in the M?

Or are you just trolling?

As said there's no contest.

EOS M has the same hybrid 18mp aps-c sensor as 650/700D.

It is no better or worse than say a 7D when it comes to IQ.

For $300 it's an absolute bargain! Don't forget you get a fast standard prime (35f2 FoV) which imo easily cost more than the whole package.

Calicajun wrote in post #16108926
Great sale price on the EOS-M but does that mean Canon is coming out with another EOS-M model or are they dropping the M series line all together?

They are going to come out with another M or 2. One will be an M replacement and another will be more high end, most likely with an VF option (Canon Rumors).

The lowball price on the M not only cleared out inventory but it was a great way to get people into the M system. Now they have a built-in consumer base for new lenses and accessories.

hecto wrote in post #16106638
...but I am not sure I see a compelling personal use for a camera that becomes almost as clunky as a DSLR once it wears a zoom lens, and also has worse performance and battery life.

That was a consideration for me, but the fact that the tiny M can use all of my current glass (with the adapter) AND the native M (ie, small) lenses is compelling. The reason I ordered the 18-55 kit was so that the option of a small general use setup is available to me. Should be handy for traveling, hiking, etc. If I am going for a more serious photography session, the M can use my larger lenses or I can just shoot with my 50D. Nice to have options. Also, other M native mount lenses are bound to be coming soon.

The 90EX as a master flash for an off camera 430EXII (or a couple of them) is also calling me. Talk about a small strobist kit! I'll have to pick one of those up asap. Until then, does anyone know if the RF 602s will work with the M?

Now that the AF is fixed and the price dropped, I can't see a reason not to get the EOS-M. I am really looking forward to its arrival.

BrickR wrote in post #16109008
They are going to come out with another M or 2. One will be an M replacement and another will be more high end, most likely with an VF option (Canon Rumors).

The lowball price on the M not only cleared out inventory but it was a great way to get people into the M system. Now they have a built-in consumer base for new lenses and accessories.

you think? I think it's a great way to make people wonder how long it will take to deeply discount the next model or wonder like BrickR if there will be a next model. canon never dumps its DSLRs like this so soon after release.

kumicho wrote in post #16108872
Do you seriously not get the difference between a microscopic sensor in the S4 and an APS-C sensor in the M?

Or are you just trolling?

Rumor has it the iPhone 5s will have a Sony built sensor with some neat applications.

If all you do is take photos to post to Facebook or other net boards, a cell phone sized sensor is just fine.

ed rader wrote in post #16109214
you think? I think it's a great way to make people wonder how long it will take to deeply discount the next model or wonder like BrickR if there will be a next model. canon never dumps its DSLRs like this so soon after release.

Yep. Sears Canada always has 40% off sales. Does anyone in their right mind ever pay the list price or do they wait for the upcoming sale.

Dangerous precedence to set by discounting this much.

ed rader wrote in post #16109214
you think? I think it's a great way to make people wonder how long it will take to deeply discount the next model or wonder like BrickR if there will be a next model. canon never dumps its DSLRs like this so soon after release.

It's clear that the next model is just around the corner.

99% will have the same sensor as the 70D. If the technology really works as claimed (5x quicker in liveview), there's no need for an vf anymore for me...

Hogloff wrote in post #16109238
Rumor has it the iPhone 5s will have a Sony built sensor with some neat applications.

If all you do is take photos to post to Facebook or other net boards, a cell phone sized sensor is just fine.

Still trolling EOS M posts I see? Glad to see not much has changed...