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Jul 11, 2013 11:50 |  #1

It's hard to find a more shy combination than...a stick insect on a mimosa ;)

I used focus stacking on this image not to increase DOF, but to decrease it...explanation below


IMAGE: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2874/9263826026_480efe5e70_o.jpg


For this pic, I was not hunger of DOF, if I want the stick insect and parts of the mimosa to be in focus, I can simply stop down....so....focus stacking is unnecessary?
Below is the same scene @ F11.

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5349/9263826198_9193f77c54_o.jpg

It's easy to spot the problem here, the BG is very busy, even my combination of a 150mm lens and a 1.4x extender couldn't provide smooth bokeh.
I'm not sure if others have used this technique before...
I deliberately used a large aperture (F4) to induce diffused BG, focus bracket, and then stacked it.

The good thing is you can control precisely which elements you want to have in focus.
For the first picture, all the leaves were in focus after auto stacking in Zerene stacker, but then I made the leaves OOF, so that it won't draw attention away from the subject.

It also took a much longer editing time than usual, since I had to consider which elements I want sharp, and then retouch it....
Another downside is you have to stack a lot of pictures with minute focus increments, since the DOF @f4 is extremely narrow.
To be honest, the first picture was a failed attempt, the stick insect is very soft, I completely missed the focus on it, and had to apply very heavy sharpening to make it appear sharp.
Anyways, this is one more skill in my bag, and think it has lots of use for natural light macro.

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Jul 11, 2013 12:17 |  #2

First time I heard of that method, but it sure works, well thought! clever way of getting rid of a busy background.

Thanks for sharing them with us :)

I like the picture, with might be a little too bright for my taste tough.


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Jul 11, 2013 12:40 |  #3

Nice result.
Have used what I called differential focus stacking in the past where I focus stack the subject but not the background (by hand)
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Jul 12, 2013 04:07 |  #4

Warl0rd wrote in post #16111138 (external link)
First time I heard of that method, but it sure works, well thought! clever way of getting rid of a busy background.

Thanks for sharing them with us :)

I like the picture, with might be a little too bright for my taste tough.

Thanks :)
After your comment, I also think the picture was overexposed by half a stop!
Have to calibrate my monitor!

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Nice result.
Have used what I called differential focus stacking in the past where I focus stack the subject but not the background (by hand)
Brian v.

Thanks, LordV.


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Jul 12, 2013 06:56 |  #5

Unfocus stacking.
Neat. :)


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Jul 12, 2013 07:54 |  #6

it came out great! btw I often do what you did here and what Brian calls Differential focus stacking, now all the secrets are exposed :lol:


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Jul 12, 2013 08:33 |  #7

haha I prefer calling it "Unfocus stacking" to "Differential focus stacking" :)


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