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Any convincing 85 1.2L II vs 85 1.8 comparison pics to buy the L ?

 
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Jul 26, 2013 08:26 |  #136

genjurok wrote in post #16155066 (external link)
You need more convincing examples or even better just shoot the same subject with the 85L and 85 f1/.8 as requested several times in this very thread?

on the other hand, you could just be thankful to get any examples.

This has been a good thread that shows the lenses are very close in image quality. My 85 1.8 is my favorite lens, but the fact remains that you can't shoot the 1.8 at 1.2 to achieve the same bokeh.

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Jul 26, 2013 09:22 |  #137

I have both. Use both for different things. For me, the only thing these two are similar in are the focal length. I use the 1.8 for indoor sports like indoor soccer, basketball, MMA etc and the 1.2 for everything else.




  
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Jul 26, 2013 09:45 as a reply to  @ cdang's post |  #138

Not sure if everyone has seen this, but it has comparison shots of the two:

http://www.wlcastleman​.com …okeh_2/oof_back​ground.htm (external link).

So far in this thread, most comparison shots either have a rather tight framing or the background is significantly beyond the DOF. In either case the background is already obliterated at either 1.2 or 1.8. I suspect the 85/1.2 is really going to shine over the 1.8 with backgrounds that are closer to the subject such as a wedding photog shooting a busy reception with people all around, but we just really haven't seen those comparisons yet.


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Jul 26, 2013 10:39 |  #139

FEChariot wrote in post #16155441 (external link)
Not sure if everyone has seen this, but it has comparison shots of the two:

http://www.wlcastleman​.com …okeh_2/oof_back​ground.htm (external link).

So far in this thread, most comparison shots either have a rather tight framing or the background is significantly beyond the DOF. In either case the background is already obliterated at either 1.2 or 1.8. I suspect the 85/1.2 is really going to shine over the 1.8 with backgrounds that are closer to the subject such as a wedding photog shooting a busy reception with people all around, but we just really haven't seen those comparisons yet.

The 85 1.8 looks really soft (at f/1.8 and f/2.) Even when compared to the 85L @ 1.2

Personally, thats a bigger consideration for me (as a non-wedding photographer).


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Jul 26, 2013 10:43 |  #140

RickRandhawa wrote in post #16155551 (external link)
The 85 1.8 looks really soft (at f/1.8 and f/2.) Even when compared to the 85L @ 1.2

Personally, thats a bigger consideration for me (as a non-wedding photographer).

It's supposed to be sharp at F1.8. It looks front-focussed if you ask me. check the baseball cap and boobs, they're sharp.


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Jul 26, 2013 11:27 |  #141

It says right on the chart -

Out of focus appearance of mannequin in the f/1.8 lens series is due to the focus point being on the grey card.

FEChariot wrote in post #16155441 (external link)
Not sure if everyone has seen this, but it has comparison shots of the two:

http://www.wlcastleman​.com …okeh_2/oof_back​ground.htm (external link).

So far in this thread, most comparison shots either have a rather tight framing or the background is significantly beyond the DOF. In either case the background is already obliterated at either 1.2 or 1.8. I suspect the 85/1.2 is really going to shine over the 1.8 with backgrounds that are closer to the subject such as a wedding photog shooting a busy reception with people all around, but we just really haven't seen those comparisons yet.

RickRandhawa wrote in post #16155551 (external link)
The 85 1.8 looks really soft (at f/1.8 and f/2.) Even when compared to the 85L @ 1.2

Personally, thats a bigger consideration for me (as a non-wedding photographer).

jefzor wrote in post #16155559 (external link)
It's supposed to be sharp at F1.8. It looks front-focussed if you ask me. check the baseball cap and boobs, they're sharp.


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Jul 26, 2013 11:58 |  #142

RickRandhawa wrote in post #16155551 (external link)
The 85 1.8 looks really soft (at f/1.8 and f/2.) Even when compared to the 85L @ 1.2

KirkS518 wrote in post #16155687 (external link)
It says right on the chart -

Still as an 85/1.8 owner, I tend to avoid faster than f2.2 for sharpness unless I really need it. Its usable, there, but 2.2 is nicer.


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Jul 26, 2013 14:46 |  #143

FEChariot wrote in post #16155768 (external link)
Still as an 85/1.8 owner, I tend to avoid faster than f2.2 for sharpness unless I really need it. Its usable, there, but 2.2 is nicer.

This is exactly my feelings when it comes to my 1.8. This is the reason I would consider picking up a different 85mm, I would like to shoot the FL at wider apertures with very sharp results.


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Jul 26, 2013 14:49 |  #144

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This is exactly my feelings when it comes to my 1.8. This is the reason I would consider picking up a different 85mm, I would like to shoot the FL at wider apertures with very sharp results.

The 85 1.2 is tack tack sharp at 1.2 however It does suffer from CA/Purple fringing under high contrast edges. Something to look out for. Under the right light it's amazing.


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Jul 26, 2013 14:51 |  #145

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The 85 1.2 is tack tack sharp at 1.2 however It does suffer from CA/Purple fringing under high contrast edges. Something to look out for. Under the right light it's amazing.

CA/PF can be dealt with, but an empty wallet can't! ;) Looks like I'm gonna have to settle for 2.2 for a while!


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Jul 26, 2013 16:05 |  #146

This thread is funny. You people will argue over anything. The will never ever be able to reproduce the 1.2 at 1.2. Thats the biggest deciding factor. If you don't think its a big deal than buy the 1.8 and be happy. I love my 1.8 but I would buy the 1.2 in a heartbeat if I could afford that extra stop or dof.


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Jul 26, 2013 16:26 |  #147

Having owned both the 85L II and the 85 1.8, I don't think I could ever spend the extra $1500 on the 85L II again... I loved the 85L II, but the 85 1.8 was just as good, without the f/1.2... Faster AF, much cheaper, identical IQ... Same amounts of purple fringing... Although f/1.2 is always fun, it is NOT worth the upcharge for me.

I really think the 85 1.8 is the better lens when all things considered... The 85L II is really a specialty lens and it is amazing at what it does... But the 85 1.8 is just as awesome for a fraction of the price.

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