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Any convincing 85 1.2L II vs 85 1.8 comparison pics to buy the L ?

 
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Jul 14, 2013 06:20 |  #16

Stu Scully wrote in post #16118627 (external link)
It's funny because on a car forum I frequent a similar question was asked. Except in that case you replace the 1.2 and 1.8 with a Subaru BRZ and Porsche Cayman.

The answer in both cases? Get what you know you'll enjoy and won't regret buying a week later!

A Subaru BRZ compared to a Porsche Cayman ? I think a WRX (1.8) vs a STI (1.2) is a better comparison. Not the best but better.

Both lens are great. I use them both differently depending on the situation.




  
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Jul 14, 2013 12:41 |  #17

Here's what f/1.2 buys you:

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Jul 14, 2013 13:06 |  #18

Beautiful examples




  
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Jul 14, 2013 14:00 |  #19

TheLensGuy wrote in post #16116356 (external link)
Stay away from sigma 85, its so unreliable for focusing!

Your anti-Sigma bias is beyond comprehension for me. Intact I think it would be fair if you wouldn't be allowed to post in anything Sigma related...:confused:


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Jul 14, 2013 14:08 |  #20

Since people are encouraged to "freely express their opinions" here..... can we all agree that "disagreeing" is ok.




  
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Jul 14, 2013 17:39 |  #21

SamFrench wrote in post #16119720 (external link)
Since people are encouraged to "freely express their opinions" here..... can we all agree that "disagreeing" is ok.

While I agree with you 100%, don't expect people to weigh the opinions of alchemists the same as particle physicists.


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Jul 14, 2013 18:52 |  #22

ben805 wrote in post #16115552 (external link)
stick with 85 1.8 if you have to wonder. :)

I don't think he can he "stick with it", simply because he doesn't have the 85 f1.8. He said in his original post that he doesn't have any 85mm lenses now.


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Jul 14, 2013 20:43 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #23

you live once. do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just holding it feels good..


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Jul 14, 2013 21:05 |  #24
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I really don't understand these "comparison" threads. There are 2 fundamental questions to answer when it comes to buying a lens.

Do you need the lens in question? If yes, move to the next question, which is, can you afford the lens in question?

Most of the time, the answer to the first question is yes, and many people posting in these "vs" threads come here to justify the answer to the second question. Unfortunately, it just so happens that majority of these questions are asked to justify why the expensive version of a lens is unnecessary.

Of course 1.2 is better than 1.8, why else would it cost $2,000? Can you afford it? Do you need it? There is your answer.

An M3 is %30-50 more expensive (depending on the options involved) than a 335. A 335 is a phenomenal car to 90% of the public and a reach for many people. The M3 is a master piece, it's a car in a league of its own. You go to any public car forum and ask this question, 9 out of 10 people who don't own an M3 will say it's a waste of money and how you can get an 335 and chip this and mod that and beat an M3 0-60. Reality is M3 can never be beaten by a 335, because when you take the two cars, you never compare the 0-60 times. It's the suspension, the differential, the seats, the V8, the body work, and more importantly the name that makes an M3 the legendary sports car.

I cannot afford a 1Dx, but can only afford a 5D3. I don't go around saying how 1DX is a waste of money and how 5D3 is more than enough. Totally different cameras for totally different purposes. Now, even if I had the need for 1DX, I still wouldn't be able to afford it and stick with 5D3. That doesn't mean I'll try to justify my decision by saying how such a waste of money 1DX is. Makes sense?




  
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Jul 14, 2013 21:33 |  #25

cdang wrote in post #16118671 (external link)
A Subaru BRZ compared to a Porsche Cayman ? I think a WRX (1.8) vs a STI (1.2) is a better comparison. Not the best but better.

Both lens are great. I use them both differently depending on the situation.

I mentioned that comparison on a cost basis (Cayman being over double the cost of a BRZ depending on options and years being compared) moreso than an ability comparison.




  
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Jul 14, 2013 22:51 as a reply to  @ Stu Scully's post |  #26

I will take BRZ. Cayman, naa. 911 turbo sure. Regarding OPs question he should buy neither and instead get 200mm f2 IS.:)


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Jul 15, 2013 00:34 |  #27

The colour and contrast of the 1.8 pales in comparison to my 135 2.0

Sure it is sharp, but often I find the results a tad washed out lacking that wow factor


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Jul 15, 2013 01:19 |  #28

TheLensGuy wrote in post #16120642 (external link)
I really don't understand these "comparison" threads. There are 2 fundamental questions to answer when it comes to buying a lens.

Do you need the lens in question? If yes, move to the next question, which is, can you afford the lens in question?

But the OP is not sure which lens he needs. Hence, the need for comparison. How do you determine which lens will best meet your needs unless you compare lenses? That is why people compare lenses, and start these "comparison" threads - so that they can figure out which lens will meet their needs.


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Jul 15, 2013 05:30 |  #29

I had the 85 1.2L. Way too slow, way too many missed shots. Bought the 85 1.8 and it is much lighter, and nails almost every shot. If wanted, I can blur, de-focus, selective focus in Photoshop.
For me, anyway, the 70-200 2.8 IS II makes far more sense (one amazing lens).




  
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Jul 15, 2013 08:26 |  #30

LucasCK wrote in post #16121000 (external link)
The colour and contrast of the 1.8 pales in comparison to my 135 2.0

Sure it is sharp, but often I find the results a tad washed out lacking that wow factor

Another one of those. Can you please show the color differences?

Here is 85mm f1.8

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Here is 70-200mm f2.8 IS II
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I know no 135L but I have tested 135L against 70-200mm f2.8 IS II and my sigma 85mmf 1.4 and I sold 135L both times.:)

More color from 85mm f1.8
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And I don't post process much at all.

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