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Any convincing 85 1.2L II vs 85 1.8 comparison pics to buy the L ?

 
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Jul 15, 2013 13:58 |  #46

maximus_73 wrote in post #16122437 (external link)
Thanks for the pictures, looks like 85 1.2L has better contrast which is what you expected from L lens.

Man I stared at the pictures for a good 2 minutes, and I'm not seeing that better contrast....the exposure on the 85 1.8 image is slightly brighter, but thats the only difference I see.


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Jul 15, 2013 14:41 |  #47

RickRandhawa wrote in post #16122551 (external link)
Man I stared at the pictures for a good 2 minutes, and I'm not seeing that better contrast....the exposure on the 85 1.8 image is slightly brighter, but thats the only difference I see.

agreed.

i even put them both on separate PS layers and toggled back and forth.

only difference i see is a bit of vignetting on the 1.8


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Jul 15, 2013 15:27 |  #48

This thread sparked some curiosity so I went to the photo store today and tried out and tried out the 85L demo unit there for a good 15-20 minutes..bad mistake because, to me, I see the small difference between this and my 85 1.8. The saturation of the 85L is better, along with small amount of contrast. I've always noticed that the 1.8 has a very flat color feeling SOOC, even when compared with my sigma 35. The microcontrast that separates the subject and the OOF area is more noticeable. AF is definitely slower, almost 50mm 1.8 MKII slow but more quiet. I dont like how the 85L's red dot is very...weird and took me longer to put it on compare to other lenses haha. It's also definitely very difficult to use on moving subjects during my test of it. Overall, for me, this lens was what I expected and I will definitely save up for a purchase soon.

I wouldn't compare it to car vs car. Compare it to food, some Olive oil are more expensive than others, most people couldnt tell the difference between generic supermarket OO and imported $40 per liter OO even though theyre both just pressed oil from olives. However, to some, that small aroma, color and taste is worth that difference.

P.S. Also tried out the Sigma while I was there and the focus was off and soft off the bat. I wouldnt take a chance with that until it's compatible with the Sigma Dock.


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Jul 15, 2013 18:12 as a reply to  @ x0ny's post |  #49

Another set of pictures

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Jul 15, 2013 18:25 |  #50

In the first set, I do see a very slight difference in the bokeh (1.8 v. 1.8), but not any noticeable difference in the color. However, in the second set, I can definitely see the difference in the color, particularly in the red and the grey of the table. Surprisingly, I don't see a difference in the greens or the blues (not to my eyes anyway). For me, I don't see enough of a difference, uness you need the 1.2.

I think x0ny had a valid point with his olive oil comparison. Different people have different taste buds, olfactory senses, and vision. I think in this case, it may depend on your personal visual abilities.


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Jul 15, 2013 18:54 |  #51

mitchrapp wrote in post #16122025 (external link)
Here are some actual pictures comparing the 2. No PP other than the default raw conversion in LR. I tried to match exposure levels as much as possible in camera.

The 85 f1.8 looks to have a slightly warmer color cast than the 85L. Nothing that couldn't be adjusted after the shot.


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Jul 15, 2013 19:49 |  #52

For a pro, the build quality difference, the sealing, and the difference in focusing speed might be more than enough to pick the pricey one. f1.2 aperture could be another reason wither because of shallower DOF or better low light performance.
Image quality though is less likely to be the reason to pay the extra money.


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Jul 15, 2013 19:54 |  #53

bishoy wrote in post #16123505 (external link)
For a pro, the build quality difference, the sealing, and the difference in focusing speed might be more than enough to pick the pricey one. f1.2 aperture could be another reason wither because of shallower DOF or better low light performance.
Image quality though is less likely to be the reason to pay the extra money.

You do realize the moe expensive L focuses much much slower right?


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Jul 15, 2013 19:55 |  #54

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Might be it..... DigitalRev L vs. Non L.


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Jul 15, 2013 20:03 |  #55

mitchrapp wrote in post #16123280 (external link)
Another set of pictures

Mitch, can i crop and repost these toy images?


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Jul 15, 2013 20:25 |  #56

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=he's gone;16123553]Mitch, can i crop and repost these toy images?

Go for it.




  
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Jul 15, 2013 20:40 as a reply to  @ mitchrapp's post |  #57

100 percent crops of Mitch's above images both taken at 1.8. One lens is on the left, and one lens on the right of both images.

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the images on the left are both from the same lens.

the images on the right are from the other lens.

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Jul 15, 2013 20:47 |  #58

1.2 1.8 1.8 1.2 respectively (assuming there was no post done to the images), that's my guess.


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Jul 15, 2013 20:50 |  #59

Forgot the why -

#1, the table is more vibrant (however vibrant grey can be), as well as the kick panel of the truck.

#3, the blue in the upper right quadrant is richer, as well as the yellow of the pencil sticker.

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Jul 15, 2013 20:51 |  #60

To me, there is no doubt that the 1.8 is sharper at 1.8 than the L. I just love shooting at 1.2 :)


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