I agree that it can help to know. Particularly for action shots.
I like the star trails shot, particularly as there is just sufficient detail to give the foreground interest. But aren't the arcs wrong?!

CliveyBoy R.I.P. He will be missed 3,272 posts Likes: 42 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Tauranga, NZ More info | Apr 16, 2007 23:46 | #19096 akiwi wrote in post #3054415 I agree that it can help to know. Particularly for action shots. I like the star trails shot, particularly as there is just sufficient detail to give the foreground interest. But aren't the arcs wrong?! Clive, and Great G/D Abbie
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NordieBoy Goldmember 2,635 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Nelson NZ More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:04 | #19097 CliveyBoy wrote in post #3054467 I like the star trails shot, particularly as there is just sufficient detail to give the foreground interest. But aren't the arcs wrong?! ![]() He probably used 1st curtain sync instead of 2nd curtain sync on the flash. Fran
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IainB Goldmember 1,427 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jan 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand, More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:10 | #19098 somethingsimple wrote in post #3052169 LOL only my modest 350d, kit 18-55mm zoom and auto P mode, backlit with daylight (have to be quick with her cos shes a feral kitten we have tamed, and shes not too sure about anything yet) Kit lens? Makes sense...... kit....cat..... _______________
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akiwi Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:16 | #19099 klippe wrote in post #3054453 Peter, I've never shot in the snow before. How difficult is it to get the balance right between the snow/trees/sky? Any particular tricks (ND grad filters etc), or do you just keep changing exposures (or through bracketing) to get the shot you want? By the way I love the creek winding away from you in that shot, neat composition. The fact that it starts at the corner of the frame works for me. Cliff Yes, snow can cause problems, but I tend to over expose by between 2/3 and 1 stop. The problem is that if you don't over expose snow, the camera exposes it to a lovely neutral grey. CliveyBoy wrote in post #3054467 I like the star trails shot, particularly as there is just sufficient detail to give the foreground interest. But aren't the arcs wrong?! ![]() ?? NordieBoy wrote in post #3054526 He probably used 1st curtain sync instead of 2nd curtain sync on the flash. Noooo. it was second curtain. I guess the 580 is pretty powerfull isn't it. Peter
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klippe Goldmember 2,168 posts Joined Mar 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:24 | #19100 akiwi wrote in post #3054555 Yes, snow can cause problems, but I tend to over expose by between 2/3 and 1 stop. The problem is that if you don't over expose snow, the camera exposes it to a lovely neutral grey. I took the shot along with many others that I am very happy with, one evening. I borrowed a set of snow shows (Never used them before). And went off walking and photographing for about 2 hours after the ski area had closed. ?? Noooo. it was second curtain. I guess the 580 is pretty powerfull isn't it. Thanks for the info Peter. The impossible has begun - another step closer - and I am very hungry for it.
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akiwi Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:39 | #19101 klippe wrote in post #3054570 Thanks for the info Peter. By the way, I just can't figure out how to keep my 580 going for 15 mins - - you must be using those new titanium batteries from energizer......No wonder my fireworks images come out crap - my flash didn't fire for long enough. Tee Hehe. (that's my not quite over-the-top laugh).Cliff Actually it was over 30 minutes. Peter
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DiscoLizard Tinkerbell asking for trouble 1,391 posts Joined Jul 2006 Location: New Zealand More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:46 | #19102 Great shots Peter - I'm a sucker for star trails. You must have a decent tripod? When a dumb kiwi #$ick nicks the ball through the slips,
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S-S frustrating simple something 8,755 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2006 More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:53 | #19103 CliveyBoy wrote in post #3054467 I like the star trails shot, particularly as there is just sufficient detail to give the foreground interest. But aren't the arcs wrong?! ![]() HOW can star arcs be WRONG? klippe wrote in post #3054570 Thanks for the info Peter. By the way, I just can't figure out how to keep my 580 going for 15 mins - - you must be using those new titanium batteries from energizer......No wonder my fireworks images come out crap - my flash didn't fire for long enough. Tee Hehe. (that's my not quite over-the-top laugh).Cliff i can give you some tips for shooting fireworks with a flash
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akiwi Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:54 | #19104 DiscoLizard wrote in post #3054617 Great shots Peter - I'm a sucker for star trails. You must have a decent tripod? Any tips for that sort of shot? Mirror lock-up? Tripod is a Manfrotto 190 Pro with a ball head. Peter
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S-S frustrating simple something 8,755 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2006 More info | Apr 17, 2007 00:56 | #19105 [QUOTE=akiwi;3054555]Yes, snow can cause problems, but I tend to over expose by between 2/3 and 1 stop. The problem is that if you don't over expose snow, the camera exposes it to a lovely neutral grey.
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akiwi Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 17, 2007 01:00 | #19106 [QUOTE=somethingsimple;3054652][QUOTE=akiwi;3054555]Yes, snow can cause problems, but I tend to over expose by between 2/3 and 1 stop. The problem is that if you don't over expose snow, the camera exposes it to a lovely neutral grey. heres a really useful tip for shooting snow so that you get that lovely cold icy blue but dont lose any scene detail: http://www.corporatefineart.com …ineart/article.asp?ID=238 not to criticise your snow shot: i think you did very nicely Good tips. I use that trick with the sky sometimes, but tend to end up with over exposed snow. Peter
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klippe Goldmember 2,168 posts Joined Mar 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand More info | Apr 17, 2007 01:33 | #19107 somethingsimple wrote in post #3054641 i can give you some tips for shooting fireworks with a flash first of all, use a really long off-camera shoe cord, or long-range remote sensor then, set your camera up on a tripod, on a timer, and run into the middle distance holding the flash when the shutter fires (you can watch the little red flashing light on the body) immediately leap into the air just as the flash goes off and disintegrate yourself into thousands of little glowing pieces. MAKE SURE the flash head is pointing at the camera! otherwise the shot will be wasted repeat for every shot. nb: slave flashes can be used for multiple bursts in a single frame, you will either need long sticks to hold them, or some assistants hope this helps! i know it made my fireworks shots memorable... Damn it! Now why didn't I think of that? The impossible has begun - another step closer - and I am very hungry for it.
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CliveyBoy R.I.P. He will be missed 3,272 posts Likes: 42 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Tauranga, NZ More info | Apr 17, 2007 02:22 | #19108 akiwi wrote in post #3054555 ?? Noooo. it was second curtain. I guess the 580 is pretty powerfull isn't it. I am accustomed to seeing star arcs as convex, not concave, but i have probably only tried one aspect. I am intrigued by the circumstances required to obtain a convex path relative to the camera. Clive, and Great G/D Abbie
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akiwi Cream of the Crop More info | Apr 17, 2007 02:25 | #19109 CliveyBoy wrote in post #3054892 I am accustomed to seeing star arcs as convex, not concave, but i have probably only tried one aspect. I am intrigued by the circumstances required to obtain a convex path relative to the camera. Remember I am on the other side of the world. Peter
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Mark0159 I say stupid things all the time More info | Apr 17, 2007 02:31 | #19110 CliveyBoy wrote in post #3054892 I am accustomed to seeing star arcs as convex, not concave, but i have probably only tried one aspect. I am intrigued by the circumstances required to obtain a convex path relative to the camera. now ya got me trying to figure out which one is which again Mark
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