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Apr 17, 2007 04:28 |  #19156

theflyingkiwi wrote in post #3055211 (external link)
your lucky, if you decided to answer no, you wouldn't have been able to post :)

Each post requires a min of 3 letters :lol:

He could have written 'no' and then a full stop making a total of three characters?




  
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Apr 17, 2007 04:28 |  #19157

add a smiley works every time..

nice pics tony..

and the heat generated was not the sensor but from a cheap battery that caused the sensor to show the heat as yellowing on the picture.

as the battery discharges it will cause a generation of heat. but its not enough to damage the sensor.


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Apr 17, 2007 04:29 |  #19158

theflyingkiwi wrote in post #3055211 (external link)
your lucky, if you decided to answer no, you wouldn't have been able to post :)

Each post requires a min of 3 letters :lol:

tag141 wrote in post #3055227 (external link)
He could have written 'no' and then a full stop making a total of three characters?

see above


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Apr 17, 2007 04:29 |  #19159

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no ;)

wow you are moving up in the world, now you are using four letters. what's next a word that got two syllable in it? ;)


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Apr 17, 2007 04:47 |  #19160

Nzshrimper wrote in post #3055229 (external link)
add a smiley works every time..

nice pics tony..

and the heat generated was not the sensor but from a cheap battery that caused the sensor to show the heat as yellowing on the picture.

as the battery discharges it will cause a generation of heat. but its not enough to damage the sensor.

Wouldn't you then end up with more noise on one side than on the other then as the battery is on one side?


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Apr 17, 2007 04:48 |  #19161

akiwi wrote in post #3055247 (external link)
Wouldn't you then end up with more noise on one side than on the other then as the battery is on one side?

yep thats what happened to this guy. i am trying to find the post.. he had a few images on it...


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Apr 17, 2007 04:52 |  #19162

@momentz - based on a couple of pics have taken I would say that you are correct with a guess of approc 10-15mins - judging by the amount of earth rotation.

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Apr 17, 2007 05:05 |  #19163

Evening all

People out taking photo's, what's this thread coming to??

Some outstanding bird shots Tony, all new things take a while to get the hang of, looks like your getting right on top of it.




  
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Apr 17, 2007 05:10 |  #19164

Visited a place some of you folks are going to this weekend, first time I've been at Pukekohe (spelling??). Didn't go for any motor raceing, actually a 50th birthday but there was a club meeting on.

I had a few attempts at panning from the function room, right on the finish line.

Not as simple as it seems, I would need a bit of practice:oops:
Anyway, the following is one of my better attempts (if you ignore the composition)


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Apr 17, 2007 05:11 |  #19165

Also, please ignore the dust, I have since got rid of it!!




  
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Apr 17, 2007 05:14 |  #19166

Hey Tony, I'm going against the group here.

I don't really like neither of the images. If no one had noticed, the quality in the first seems well overdone - I'm guessing during the 60 second exposure the camera moved a bit in the wind - hence there needs to be a form of compromise, working out all variables to achieve the best result - Hence why sometimes I will up the ISO to 200/400, which will still appear clean, and have a 15 second shutter speed. Last night I was shooting 15-30 seconds, ISO 100-400, F5.6 - F16.. Wider aperture, as it got darker.


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Apr 17, 2007 05:21 |  #19167

Wazza wrote in post #3055291 (external link)
Hey Tony, I'm going against the group here.

I don't really like neither of the images. If no one had noticed, the quality in the first seems well overdone - I'm guessing during the 60 second exposure the camera moved a bit in the wind - hence there needs to be a form of compromise, working out all variables to achieve the best result - Hence why sometimes I will up the ISO to 200/400, which will still appear clean, and have a 15 second shutter speed. Last night I was shooting 15-30 seconds, ISO 100-400, F5.6 - F16.. Wider aperture, as it got darker.

Probably your best bet is to keep the tripod as short as possible, and remove all wind catching straps.
The idea of the 1 min exposure is to get that dreamey looking sea, and increasing the iso will reduce that effect (Probably that was Tonys intention anyway)


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Apr 17, 2007 05:29 as a reply to  @ post 3054920 |  #19168

lil_miss wrote in post #3052826 (external link)
Wazza - what was your settings for that shot? Its fantastic

Thanks :D - I took this one shot, F16, 6 seconds, ISO 100, 11mm on a 20D.
After this shot, it rained hard, for a bit, and then this guy Scott with a EOS 1V and a 30D, 24-105 (where are you mate? :p) gave him my tripod and mount for a few minutes, as he didn't bring his from the car.

tim wrote in post #3052947 (external link)
Knowing the settings won't help you much! Asking why he took that shot from that position, at that time, and why he framed it like that will be more useful. Knowing that and putting the camera in auto mode will give you a better result that duplicating his exposure settings.

Ask Jeeves. You sure with that magical Green button will do all that?
I thought Green button will give ISO 400, 1/60th, pop up flash....
Seriously settings will go a long way to making a shot special, however you're right in pointing out composition makes an image (as below)

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I dont fully agree. Knowing the settings helps you understand how the effect is acheived. Then you can ask the whys

After all Wazza told me what settings he used I then tryed the same and hey "it works" The composition was then up to me.

I guess it all worked for Tony. :)

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I'm not interested in copying what he did and going and sitting in the exact spot he did - i'm more curious as to what kind of ISO, aperture and shutter speed he had to get that kind of image, purely out of interest! Is that a crime ? :rolleyes: I thought that was the whole point of sharing an image - to also share how you captured it......

If I was using Opera I could look for myself - but I dont, so I was just curious....

No problems, always share my info. I'm not one of this stuck up pros who doesn't want to share tips. Always try and shoot ISO 100, except when the shutter speed and aperture becomes too long and big (aperture).

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Are you saying Wazza's image is good because he got the exposure right? I would've thought it was his talent for composition, not the trivial details that most cameras can do ok on auto. Nothing wrong with wanting to know the exif, but I seriously doubt that will help you make images anything like his. Knowing exactly when and where he took the shot is also irrelevant, what's important is why he chose that time and place, and why he composed it as he did.

Now Wazza being able to explain what I suggested asking... that's the hard bit.

If cameras can do everything in auto, how come you don't shoot weddings in auto?  :p

15min after that shot, I made the other shots. 20min previously I took a couple of bird shots. There's always photo opportunities, anything missed, is quickly gained by something else that pops up. Some scenes are just more magical. Such as the heavy rain storming through, with some white capped waves adding to the image. I don't take credit for that, I just thank mother nature.


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Apr 17, 2007 05:30 |  #19169

akiwi wrote in post #3055304 (external link)
Probably your best bet is to keep the tripod as short as possible, and remove all wind catching straps.
The idea of the 1 min exposure is to get that dreamey looking sea, and increasing the iso will reduce that effect (Probably that was Tonys intention anyway)

Yeah, that's exactly what I did last night. I removed my POTN strap.
Then we left during a shower. Braved it under a tree. Tony ran back out, and returned with my strap left on the floor. Soon afterwards we were back in that position.

With the height and the angle of the railing, you need the tripod at full leg height. Also when I was shooting, movement by Tony and this guy Scott also made the camera move the smallest amounts, which will take away from a sharp image


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Apr 17, 2007 05:32 |  #19170

Mark: That's a cool shot, showing vivid colour and plenty of motion. Avoiding the dust, as already mentioned, only thing to make it better, is to frame the car coming into the shot, rather than leaving. Same with any object, person etc. :)


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