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Mark0159
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Jun 07, 2007 02:10 |  #24571

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Its not about making up your mind. A smart man does not stick all his eggs in 1 basket. Remember I worked out side in auckland for several years. What do you plan to shoot when it rains for 3 days?

rain?

if you are living day by day as a photographer then give up and do something else.

you need to learn to compromise, you got studio gear but you don't do any basic portraits. Granted it's not what you would "love" to do but it's a start, and one thing it's going to do is start giving you a reputation as a photographer. You can then grow it in to more than just basic portraits.

but everyone here knows that you wont do that so . . .


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Jun 07, 2007 02:12 |  #24572

Just noticed your new title Mark, congates???




  
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Jun 07, 2007 02:17 |  #24573

Mark Vuleta wrote in post #3334810 (external link)
Just noticed your new title Mark, congates???

thanks, I think! I did wonder when my title was going to change.

I do find it funny :)

I can remember typing that out a while ago but for the life of me I can't remember where and what it was regards too. I did wonder at the time if my title would to it. I guess I now know. :lol: :lol:


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Jun 07, 2007 03:11 |  #24574

Sorry, did I miss the anouncement? Is it beat up on Tony week?




  
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Jun 07, 2007 03:11 as a reply to  @ Mark0159's post |  #24575

ive just noticed i made senior!

damn should have done a better 1000th post




  
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Jun 07, 2007 03:12 |  #24576

scotttnz wrote in post #3334928 (external link)
Sorry, did I miss the anouncement? Is it beat up on Tony week?

month i think




  
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Jun 07, 2007 03:35 |  #24577

Why the sad face in your sig Scott? What's stopping you from taking photos?

Serious question - not a dig.

Cliff
P.S. I just want to clarify that I am only asking this question cause I cannot for the life of me figure out why this full time photography thing makes us all glum. So many of us don't think we can do it. I just want to know why those amongst us feel that way. It is a genuine question.


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Jun 07, 2007 03:56 |  #24578

klippe wrote in post #3334973 (external link)
Why the sad face in your sig Scott? What's stopping you from taking photos?

Serious question - not a dig.

Cliff
P.S. I just want to clarify that I am only asking this question cause I cannot for the life of me figure out why this full time photography thing makes us all glum. So many of us don't think we can do it. I just want to know why those amongst us feel that way. It is a genuine question.

i dont know
the only thing i feel 'glum' about is being financially so limited at the moment. but at least when i finally get set up i will never take it for granted, cos of how long it took!




  
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Jun 07, 2007 04:01 |  #24579

klippe wrote in post #3334973 (external link)
Why the sad face in your sig Scott? What's stopping you from taking photos?

Serious question - not a dig.

Cliff
P.S. I just want to clarify that I am only asking this question cause I cannot for the life of me figure out why this full time photography thing makes us all glum. So many of us don't think we can do it. I just want to know why those amongst us feel that way. It is a genuine question.

I am not motivated enough to get off my ass and become one. is that enough of a reason. also for me I don't know if I wont to. it means turning a hobby in to something more.


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Jun 07, 2007 04:08 |  #24580

klippe wrote in post #3334973 (external link)
Serious question - not a dig.

Cliff
P.S. I just want to clarify that I am only asking this question cause I cannot for the life of me figure out why this full time photography thing makes us all glum. So many of us don't think we can do it. I just want to know why those amongst us feel that way. It is a genuine question.

I guess for me with no art/marketing back ground and a family make me uncertian If it was hortiulture or IT then I know what its about.

I have no doubt in my ability it is the business side. Which is where most fall down when starting a business.

For example you do a building apprentiseship. Work as a builder for a few years then decide to become self employed. You know the industry. What you then learn is the business side.

Now take the same builder who decides he loves cooking and want to be a cheif. With no back ground at all or training. Now he has to not only learn the "industry" as well as learning the differene between cooking at home and been a cheif he also has to learn the business of been a cheif. As well as running a business.

Its the great casim of not having the background.

Does that explin why people are so unsure?


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Jun 07, 2007 04:09 |  #24581

theflyingkiwi wrote in post #3335045 (external link)
I am not motivated enough to get off my ass and become one. is that enough of a reason. also for me I don't know if I wont to. it means turning a hobby in to something more.

seconded.




  
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Jun 07, 2007 04:20 |  #24582

scotttnz wrote in post #3334928 (external link)
Sorry, did I miss the anouncement? Is it beat up on Tony week?

It does help me. Makes me think. If I cant hack it here I wont survive in the real world.

BRING IT ON :evil:


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Jun 07, 2007 04:25 |  #24583

theflyingkiwi wrote in post #3335045 (external link)
I am not motivated enough to get off my ass and become one. is that enough of a reason. also for me I don't know if I wont to. it means turning a hobby in to something more.

So it's not really the lack of motivation, but it's more the "I don't know if i want to"? Is that fair comment on my part?

SS, I can appreciate the funding issues. Have been there myself. Although sans-kids, which must be a hell of a lot more difficult for you. But you are working on improving that situation - which is awesome. Yay for self-help.

I have no doubt (to some of you) that I have come across as a non-caring, family-breaking, superficial know-it-all of late - with my recent posts. I am without sh*t. Why beat around the bush. And for the record, I in no way endorse the idea of abandoning families etc. They just shouldn't be used as an excuse - especially if you love them. Hence my "be true to your family and yourself". If you have the support of your family to do something - when they know the potential consequences of it going wrong, does that not show you the utmost of love and respect? Do you not actually OWE it to them to give it a crack? They are going to back you all the way either way by the sounds of things. If it doesn't work out, get a regular job again.

I have the same fears of failure and rejection that anyone else here has. I have simply decided to go for it anyway. If I fail I will be no worse off than I am now. I expect to fail many many times on the way. None of that actually affects my ability to get on with it though. And it shouldn't. Look at virtually anyone who's succeeded and you'll find a long hard slog along the way - and many rejections and failures.

I have no idea if I'll make it to where I am aiming - but why should my uncertainty stop me from trying? What physical reason does it give me to not try? None that I can see.

Feel free to take me up on any of the above. Happy to discuss it via PM, or however you want to.

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Jun 07, 2007 04:28 |  #24584

weka2000 wrote in post #3335062 (external link)
Now take the same builder who decides he loves cooking and want to be a cheif. With no back ground at all or training. Now he has to not only learn the "industry" as well as learning the differene between cooking at home and been a cheif he also has to learn the business of been a cheif. As well as running a business.

Its the great casim of not having the background.

Does that explin why people are so unsure?

Yep, it explains the "unsure" part of it. That's exactly what I am going through right now. And I am doing what I can to learn it fast....being as confident with it as I can. Will make mistakes and screw it up on the way, will learn a lot and come out better off for it.

Like you Tony, BRING IT ON.

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Jun 07, 2007 04:32 as a reply to  @ weka2000's post |  #24585

klippe wrote in post #3334973 (external link)
Why the sad face in your sig Scott? What's stopping you from taking photos?

Serious question - not a dig.

Cliff
P.S. I just want to clarify that I am only asking this question cause I cannot for the life of me figure out why this full time photography thing makes us all glum. So many of us don't think we can do it. I just want to know why those amongst us feel that way. It is a genuine question.

Ah just uninspired about photo taking at the moment. Not really unhappy about it, as I have been busy doing other things, which I am enjoying. Getting a bit fitter, losing some weight, and getting to know my wife better etc. So I've been taking a bit of a break from photography, and are just starting to come back to it. Photography has only ever been a hobby for me, something I do for fun. I have no desire to go pro or anything like it. If someone wants to pay me for a photo I take, great. If not, I don't really care. So if I get uninspired and feel like doing something else for a while, it's no problem for me.




  
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