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Jul 15, 2013 17:27 |  #1

This is majorly in advance but I'm just trying to work out if I'm going to be needing anything else on top of what I have? Trying to budget if I need to buy. I'm going to Croatia for two weeks in September and want to go light and minimal, but without losing the chance to shoot almost everything.

I currently have a 650D + 10-22, 6D + 40 + 24 - 105.

I'm trying to get away from taking the 650D as I think it'll just be excess weight, so I'm probably going to be looking at renting a 17 - 40 in place of the 10 - 22. Is it worth me picking up anything at the longer end or is there anything else worth renting to take with me? I have a 430exii in the kit bag as well, anyone think that would be worth taking too?

Any ideas appreciated!


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Jul 15, 2013 18:08 |  #2
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Personally, I would just take the 6D and 24-105 lens. This is your best bet for overall shooting coverage with portability.




  
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Jul 15, 2013 18:16 |  #3

If you plan to get pictures of people (friends/family), you will likely run into situations where you will need flash (too dark or for fill) so I would bring the 430exII. If your focus is more on just landscape, architecture, etc, you might not need the flash and can leave it home. I would bring a UWA and a tripod. A telephoto would be nice to have too, but it depends on how much you want to bring/carry. A 9 or 10 stop nd filter could be good as well. Especially if you are trying to capture a scene and you want to remove the people walking through it or to get a longer exposure on moving water.


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Jul 16, 2013 03:38 |  #4

tagnal wrote in post #16123293 (external link)
If you plan to get pictures of people (friends/family), you will likely run into situations where you will need flash (too dark or for fill) so I would bring the 430exII. If your focus is more on just landscape, architecture, etc, you might not need the flash and can leave it home. I would bring a UWA and a tripod. A telephoto would be nice to have too, but it depends on how much you want to bring/carry. A 9 or 10 stop nd filter could be good as well. Especially if you are trying to capture a scene and you want to remove the people walking through it or to get a longer exposure on moving water.

Food for though, thanks. It's going to be me and my partner, so I think the flash will probably be needed at some point. I definitely want to take an UWA I'm just a bit reluctant to take anything other than my 10 - 22 because I love it! I (personally) think it's so much better than the 17-40, but I don't want to take the 650! Tripod is a definite and so is the B+W 10 stop!


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Jul 16, 2013 03:44 |  #5

For going light and minimal, I would recommend just taking the 650D with the 10-22 and 24-105 and leave the 6D at home. Have lots of focal lengths covered and a pop up flash (I know, I know). I know you did say that you really don't want to take the 650D but I'm just throwing the idea out there.


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Jul 16, 2013 04:33 |  #6

touji wrote in post #16124339 (external link)
For going light and minimal, I would recommend just taking the 650D with the 10-22 and 24-105 and leave the 6D at home. Have lots of focal lengths covered and a pop up flash (I know, I know). I know you did say that you really don't want to take the 650D but I'm just throwing the idea out there.

I'm going to be playing about with some HDR, so the 650 is a no go I'm afraid :( But thanks for the idea!


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Jul 16, 2013 05:16 |  #7

touji wrote in post #16124339 (external link)
For going light and minimal, I would recommend just taking the 650D with the 10-22 and 24-105 and leave the 6D at home. Have lots of focal lengths covered and a pop up flash (I know, I know). I know you did say that you really don't want to take the 650D but I'm just throwing the idea out there.

I would do as Touji suggested - the 650D with 10-22 and 24-105. It's a smaller body and lightweight, and should be sufficiently capable for most 'tourist' shots. OK, it's no match for you 6D in low light, and it's not full frame. I'd still go with it. For those like myself with only one body (a gripped 5D3), I sometimes wish I had my former camera, a 60D. The weight difference gets noticable after the first 2 hours around my neck.


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Jul 16, 2013 05:24 |  #8

If you got charged a little excess baggage for hand luggage you checked in and carried all your gear on board it would likely be cheaper than renting a 17-40 and you would have every fov covered from 16 to about 165. What I am suggesting is you dont have an awful lot of gear so just bring it all


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Jul 16, 2013 08:43 |  #9

650D and rent/buy a 15-85 for the occasion. You get the same as FF 24mm on the wide end, more than the FF 105mm on the long end, and you only have to take one lens. Pack a flash, if needed.




  
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Jul 16, 2013 08:49 |  #10

Brelly wrote in post #16124384 (external link)
I'm going to be playing about with some HDR, so the 650 is a no go I'm afraid :( But thanks for the idea!

Just do the HDR in post, not in-camera. Much better results.


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Jul 16, 2013 09:16 |  #11

To me it's a toss-up between the 650D and 10-22 and the 6D with a 17-40. Optically, the 10-22 might be better than the 17-40, and it's not much extra weight, so I would probably bring both kits. The 6D with 24-105 and 650D with 10-22. If you're traveling with someone, have that person carry the camera you're not using and perhaps you will be in some vacation pictures as well?




  
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Jul 16, 2013 09:23 |  #12

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16124766 (external link)
650D and rent/buy a 15-85 for the occasion. You get the same as FF 24mm on the wide end, more than the FF 105mm on the long end, and you only have to take one lens. Pack a flash, if needed.

hawkan wrote in post #16124855 (external link)
To me it's a toss-up between the 650D and 10-22 and the 6D with a 17-40. Optically, the 10-22 might be better than the 17-40, and it's not much extra weight, so I would probably bring both kits. The 6D with 24-105 and 650D with 10-22. If you're traveling with someone, have that person carry the camera you're not using and perhaps you will be in some vacation pictures as well?

Sirrith wrote in post #16124788 (external link)
Just do the HDR in post, not in-camera. Much better results.

I like these suggestions although I would bring the 10-22 and have your partner with a camera also. If you go with one camera then take the 650D, the 10-22 and the 24-105.


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Jul 16, 2013 15:57 |  #13

So I've taken all of these ideas into consideration, and now found out I don't need to travel light! The airline I'm flying with has a massive hand luggage allowance so i can actually afford to take my regular pack and all my gear! I'm also going to be taking a smaller pack with just for the days where I only need one set up, which is great news.

But thanks for your input all the same guys! It's appreciated! :)


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Jul 16, 2013 18:03 |  #14

My last holiday, I went to Macau, HK, and Thailand. I brought almost all of my gear. There were times where I went out on an excursion or a walk and just took the 500D instead of my 5D3. However, thinking about it after I had gotten back home, I probably should have just left the 500D at home and carried around less gear. The 5D3 alone would have been fine. Just because you CAN bring as much as you want, doesn't necessarily mean that you should. Just lugging my gear around from place to place (even though I love my ThinkTank Airport International 2.0 which made it easier) and trying to keep it secure just added another thing to take my attention away from focusing on enjoying my vacation. One reason I did bring a backup body was in case my 5D3 were to crap out. So, if you think a backup is very important, then you should bring both. If not, just bring one.

For those that say you should take just the 650D only... if I am going on a vacation to a place where it is likely the one time in my life to visit and capture some pictures of, I'd want to take the camera that is going to give me the best possible results, that I have. In this instance, it would be the 6D.

The 17-40 is a great lens. I know you love your 10-22 as I did also before I sold it when I moved to FF. But, I am pretty certain that you will be extremely happy with the results of a 6D + 17-40 when compared to your 650D + 10-22.

Sirrith wrote in post #16124788 (external link)
Just do the HDR in post, not in-camera. Much better results.

I agree with Sirrith. Do the HDR in post. If you were referring to being able to bracket more than 3 shots, then yes, the 6D wins here and is a good reason for choosing it over the 650D.


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