Reception lighting....how I do it

hes gone wrote in post #16471695
=he's gone;16471695]save file > open in quicktime player

should not be an issue with any version of mac os x, in fact the videos were produced on a mac.

That did the trick. Thanks!!

And thank you Jesus for sharing your workflow! I found out that you and I have very similar approaches to our processing (and lighting) but the biggest difference I discovered is that you tend to tweak the color channels separately, something that I haven't really done much of. I'm going to start doing that a bit more.

jcolman wrote in post #16471703
That did the trick. Thanks!!

no problem.

i just checked the video links in safari, and the video played right in the browser window. Must be an issue with firefox not having the right access to quicktime's codecs.

although i'm only a minute or two into the video and my macbook's fan is blowing full speed!

dmward wrote in post #16471693
The easy solution to the 580EXII problem with flexes is to use Nissin Di866.
They have been tested and certified by PW. They do not have the RFI problem with the flexTT5.

I ended up buying three of them. They worked great. I still have them after selling my ControlTL stuff and getting 600EX-RTs. Available if you want them to test.

DMWARD--- any distance issues. My friend is using the yongo's and gets 100 FT

I am now very aware of the 580 issue. Didnt have the issue until i tried to spread things out for reception lighting this year. Usually im close enough to where its not a problem. But as I grew with this lighting set up. the benefits of the lighting over the drawbacks of the pWs makes me look for another alternative for lights and triggers. This reception lighting can be used in so many ways. Love it. So Im going to get lights that work right. Didnt know this about the Nissans.

I have heard of some reliability concerns with the Nissans. Hearing nothing about the Yongnuos when paired with the triggers from Youngnuo. Im leaning towards the manual yn560111's plus the 602 triggers. Will need 4 lights and 6 triggers in case something breaks i need back ups.

Did not know about setting the channels up to make the canons trigger with the other manual lights. Anyone done this with success and good reliability.

Thanks for the help. This reception lighting is a must use for wedding photogs. Will keep the wizard triggers for closer stuff. Whos gonna buy the things now that the Yonunuo's are out. They still do the trick up close and within 30 ft.

Guess you cant have too many lights or triggers

umphotography wrote in post #16471734
I have heard of some reliability concerns with the Nissans. Hearing nothing about the Yongnuos when paired with the triggers from Youngnuo. Im leaning towards the manual yn560111's plus the 602 triggers. Will need 4 lights and 6 triggers in case something breaks i need back ups.

Did not know about setting the channels up to make the canons trigger with the other manual lights. Anyone done this with success and good reliability.

FYI, the YN602 doesn't provide a way to lock the transceiver to the camera, aren't compatible with the new YNs, and don't have ttl pass through for your fill flash.

not that you'd want a flash up there with no lock.

hes gone wrote in post #16471748
=he's gone;16471748]FYI, the YN602 doesn't provide a way to lock the transceiver to the camera, aren't compatible with the new YNs, and don't have ttl pass through for your fill flash.

not that you'd want a flash up there with no lock.

I know. Big concern. So thats why i have not purchased anything yet. A couple of photogs told me that they wont put the flash in the YN trigger on camera ( pops out easily) but they do use a piece of Gaffers to keep the trigger in place when moving around and shooting.....Gaffers tape is chaep

The PWs are so pro looking. Too bad these things are not working right. I tried them with the 430's.. prob still present so PW is not 100% correct on that statement. Probably going Yongnou and will gaffer trigger on camera so it stays put. Dont have a wedding until Feb 2014 so got a month to figure things out

umphotography wrote in post #16471734
DMWARD--- any distance issues. My friend is using the yongo's and gets 100 FT

I am now very aware of the 580 issue. Didnt have the issue until i tried to spread things out for reception lighting this year. Usually im close enough to where its not a problem. But as I grew with this lighting set up. the benefits of the lighting over the drawbacks of the pWs makes me look for another alternative for lights and triggers. This reception lighting can be used in so many ways. Love it. So Im going to get lights that work right. Didnt know this about the Nissans.

I have heard of some reliability concerns with the Nissans. Hearing nothing about the Yongnuos when paired with the triggers from Youngnuo. Im leaning towards the manual yn560111's plus the 602 triggers. Will need 4 lights and 6 triggers in case something breaks i need back ups.

Did not know about setting the channels up to make the canons trigger with the other manual lights. Anyone done this with success and good reliability.

Thanks for the help. This reception lighting is a must use for wedding photogs. Will keep the wizard triggers for closer stuff. Whos gonna buy the things now that the Yonunuo's are out. They still do the trick up close and within 30 ft.

Guess you cant have too many lights or triggers

None that impacted my using them at receptions. I never did an outdoor down the street test to see maximum distance.

If you are going to use the YNs get the 622s and use them with your 580EXIIs. Or Nissin, or Yongnou. That provides ETTL for three groups, or mix of ETTL and manual.

I never had a problem with my Nissins. They just worked for as long as I had the ControlTL stuff.

dmward wrote in post #16471769
None that impacted my using them at receptions. I never did an outdoor down the street test to see maximum distance.

If you are going to use the YNs get the 622s and use them with your 580EXIIs. Or Nissin, or Yongnou. That provides ETTL for three groups, or mix of ETTL and manual.

I never had a problem with my Nissins. They just worked for as long as I had the ControlTL stuff.

I use 4 YN622c transceivers. 2 YN500ex flashes (mounted on stands atop YN622s transceivers), a 430ex II and a 580ex II (Canon flashes mounted on the YN622c transceivers each mounted on separate cameras). I have not had any issues with range. The beauty of this set-up is the YN500ex flashes (430ex II equivalent) can operate in ETTL, manual or HSS and I can control them from my 6D's flash menu.

Also, with the 622s properly configured, multiple shooters can share the same remote lights in manual while shooting E-TTL (FEL, FEC available) on camera for fill.

DBNissan wrote in post #16473326
I use 4 YN622c transceivers. 2 YN500ex flashes (mounted on stands atop YN622s transceivers), a 430ex II and a 580ex II (Canon flashes mounted on the YN622c transceivers each mounted on separate cameras). I have not had any issues with range. The beauty of this set-up is the YN500ex flashes (430ex II equivalent) can operate in ETTL, manual or HSS and I can control them from my 6D's flash menu.

What are you doing to keep the 430 and 580 from popping out of that hot shoe. when i looked at it, the locking pin is not as tight as the PW's. Im told some have had the speedlights hit the deck. ?? true or not ??

I see on the new 622's, that they can be screwed own tight to the hotshoe so it looks like thats not an issue any longer.

oldvultureface wrote in post #16473922
Also, with the 622s properly configured, multiple shooters can share the same remote lights in manual while shooting E-TTL (FEL, FEC available) on camera for fill.

That's how we do it. Two shooters sharing the same off-camera speedlights with on-camera flashes for fill.

umphotography wrote in post #16473977
What are you doing to keep the 430 and 580 from popping out of that hot shoe. when i looked at it, the locking pin is not as tight as the PW's. Im told some have had the speedlights hit the deck. ?? true or not ??

I see on the new 622's, that they can be screwed own tight to the hotshoe so it looks like thats not an issue any longer.

I haven't had any issues with the 430 or 580 coming loose or disengaging from the 622 or the 622 coming loose from the camera's hotshoe. I've shot 2 weddings and 5 events with this setup since purchasing them in August. Not once have either flash come off or come loose. I've even bumped the flash on tables/chairs when it was resting down on my side on my sling. I've also picked up my kit by the flash when in a hurry.

DBNissan wrote in post #16474327
That's how we do it. Two shooters sharing the same off-camera speedlights with on-camera flashes for fill.


I haven't had any issues with the 430 or 580 coming loose or disengaging from the 622 or the 622 coming loose from the camera's hotshoe. I've shot 2 weddings and 5 events with this setup since purchasing them in August. Not once have either flash come off or come loose. I've even bumped the flash on tables/chairs when it was resting down on my side on my sling. I've also picked up my kit by the flash when in a hurry.

Thanks

Think I have made up my mind on the 622C's- And I just might just get a set of 430ex11's.....I got Syl s book out today and played around with groups A:B and A:BC and controlling the channels.....I like being able to control the groups from the back of the camera. So I tested with a 580 on camera and set the kickers to group B....bingo...I can adjust B group from behind camera. So, if these 622's will give me distance, im inclined to grab another set of 430EXII's ( I have one) and set the kickers to B Group so I can control from back of camera. Your not going to be able to do that with any of the manual flashes and the price of the ETTL Yongnuo's are about what I can get a used clean 430EX11 for. Power is not going to be a problem inside at receptions. I can control the lights from camera this way and not have to deal with radio interference.

Thinking thats the way im going to go. 430EX11's are bulletproof and I still have ETTL and ability to control from camera. Plus I can continue to to fill from camera axis. Dont have to worry about the shadow issues that Jim showed.........so thats what im thinking.

Mike,
It will work like a charm. I do it with 600s but the YN-622s and 430EXIIs will offer the same benefits.

I set my 600s in Gr mode. You can do just about the same thing with the YN-622, just a three group limit.

dmward wrote in post #16475078
Mike,
It will work like a charm. I do it with 600s but the YN-622s and 430EXIIs will offer the same benefits.

I set my 600s in Gr mode. You can do just about the same thing with the YN-622, just a three group limit.

Not familiar with Gr mode ?

dmward wrote in post #16475078
Mike,
It will work like a charm. I do it with 600s but the YN-622s and 430EXIIs will offer the same benefits.

I set my 600s in Gr mode. You can do just about the same thing with the YN-622, just a three group limit.

I tried them today inside with Line of sight and divided these flashes up in groups A:B and tried it in A:B C. Worked everytime and I can control the groups output from back of camera. Very simple once you figure it out. PITA figuring it out though.

Looks like I can Fire off three in group B for kickers and fill from the front in group A with no problems. Even able to get TTL in Group A. So Thats huge. Need to set fire ratio's to 3:1 to group B's favor and the kicker light is perfect.

so cant wait to test distance with the 622c's.

Reading the manual. mighht be able to exceed gate speed of camera and get the shutter up with that group C.. still trying to figure that out from the PDF I got