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Jul 17, 2013 15:20 |  #1

Anybody have any experience using a flash with a polarizing gel in conjunction with a CPL to knock down glare on eyeglasses and/or anything else that could show glare in a composition?


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Jul 17, 2013 15:24 |  #2

I did it shooting glassware back in college (the dark ages) using strobes and a view camera. I remember it being a total pain in the ass to get the orientation correct so the filters were aligned. That was using a linear polarizer as it was film so I guess my correct answer would be nope, havent tried it.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 15:31 |  #3

When you got the orientation correct did it have an appreciable effect, or can you remember back to that Paleolithic Age?:D


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When you got the orientation correct did it have an appreciable effect, or can you remember back to that Paleolithic Age?:D

Yes, it helped considerably. But I do remember walking away from the experience thinking its not a great option for most product shots. I think it would be even worse with portraits where the camera angle would change as well as the angle of reflectance of the glass in the shot.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 15:46 |  #5

I appreciate your thoughts. I think I'm just going to have to give it a go and see what the combo is capable of.


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Jul 17, 2013 15:55 |  #6

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I appreciate your thoughts. I think I'm just going to have to give it a go and see what the combo is capable of.

It couldnt hurt, and the gels are pretty reasonable.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 16:20 |  #7

$45 for a 17" X 20"
$232 for 17" X 120"


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Jul 17, 2013 16:27 |  #8

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$45 for a 17" X 20"
$232 for 17" X 120"

Thats more than I remember, might want to start with speedlte sides gels to test the hypothesis.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 16:52 |  #9

I'm with you on that.

The one thing I'm concerned with is loosing specular highlights that I want. My application would be primarily for portraiture.


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Jul 17, 2013 16:54 |  #10

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Anybody have any experience using a flash with a polarizing gel in conjunction with a CPL to knock down glare on eyeglasses and/or anything else that could show glare in a composition?

A CPL makes the hair look awful.


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Jul 17, 2013 17:04 |  #11

bit it may look good if they're bald. I think you've mentioned something in the past about not liking what CPLs do to peoples looks. Then again, I'm old and feeble and don't remember squat.


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Jul 17, 2013 19:28 as a reply to  @ windpig's post |  #12

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Lit from below, polarizing gel under. CPL on camera. Polarizers are differ depending on which way the light goes through. This is looking straight into the light.

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Jul 17, 2013 21:24 |  #13

Hmm, certainly interesting looking.


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Jul 18, 2013 11:30 |  #14

windpig wrote in post #16129318 (external link)
bit it may look good if they're bald. I think you've mentioned something in the past about not liking what CPLs do to peoples looks. Then again, I'm old and feeble and don't remember squat.

yeah I do not like them. I will composite in if I need to shoot with a CPL


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Jul 18, 2013 11:39 |  #15

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Anybody have any experience using a flash with a polarizing gel in conjunction with a CPL to knock down glare on eyeglasses and/or anything else that could show glare in a composition?

I seem to recall that the fundamental way to eliminate glare from many common objects, such as eyeglasses, is with two linear polarizers. One linear polarizer on the light source, and another linear polarizer the camera's lens. I think the general term for this methodology is "cross polarization".

This is obviously cumbersome, yet effective overhead that will produce the desired result.

I have personally not tried this methodology, only almost resorted to it numerous times by compromising my needs at the expense of living with some glare.

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