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Jul 20, 2013 01:57 |  #16

Whilst I get the remote shooting can be a bonus, people go FF as they see it as an upgrade to APSC. Why would you then want to shoot JPEG ? ? ? Why would you want to show a client an un-edited picture, and why upload un-edited pictures to the Internet ( unless their for private viewing Facebook/Flickr )


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Jul 20, 2013 02:22 |  #17
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h14nha wrote in post #16136711 (external link)
Why would you then want to shoot JPEG ? ? ? Why would you want to show a client an un-edited picture, and why upload un-edited pictures to the Internet ( unless their for private viewing Facebook/Flickr )

Because like most 5D3 users with eye-fi card, you save raw to CF and small jpeg on the eye-fi ;)

I then whatsapp the photos to my relatives overseas from my phone.


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Jul 20, 2013 02:32 |  #18

Dirty Murd wrote in post #16136250 (external link)
Imagine a photo shoot where the subjects mother is sitting nearby. She can hold the iPad and view all of the shots as they are taken, and then make notes of the ones she likes the best. This is just one simple example of the uses for wi-fi.

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Jul 20, 2013 04:38 |  #19

h14nha wrote in post #16136711 (external link)
Whilst I get the remote shooting can be a bonus, people go FF as they see it as an upgrade to APSC. Why would you then want to shoot JPEG ? ? ? Why would you want to show a client an un-edited picture, and why upload un-edited pictures to the Internet ( unless their for private viewing Facebook/Flickr )

The OP asked essentially the exact same question in another thread, and I responded with the following with respect to wifi, but it applies to jpeg as well:

Tom, not everyone shoots the way you do, and having wifi means more than just sharing quick shots on Facebook. You have to think more broadly about the potential uses.

What about professional sports shooters, for example? They can take a shot of a wide receiver catching a touchdown pass in the end zone. If his camera is set to record JPGs with some light editing done by the camera via Picture Styles, and I believe the 6D lets you do in-camera cropping. From there, the photographer can send those photos to his phone via the camera's wifi, then email them to the publisher who can get them up on their website or other publication in near real time. That's amazing.

The combination of WiFi capability, JPEG capture, and in-camera editing allows the photographer to put out finished photos very quickly. That is enormously useful in many situations. The instant sales scenario that Mike mentioned above is another reason. Photojournalists covering rapidly evolving events is yet another.


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Jul 20, 2013 07:16 |  #20

I'm in the same boat as Tom. I have found this thread to be very informative and I actually thought a wi-fi camera could connect to the internet and look up webpages!

I do have a question: I shoot solely in RAW. The image on the LCD after I take an image, from what I am to understand, is a JPEG representation of the RAW shot I just took. Will I be able to send a JPEG of the RAW shot to my smartphone, or would I have to start shooting in RAW + JPEG?




  
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Jul 20, 2013 07:29 |  #21
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birder_herper wrote in post #16137071 (external link)
I do have a question: I shoot solely in RAW. The image on the LCD after I take an image, from what I am to understand, is a JPEG representation of the RAW shot I just took. Will I be able to send a JPEG of the RAW shot to my smartphone, or would I have to start shooting in RAW + JPEG?

No. You have to shoot RAW + JPEG.

The eye-fi pro x2 can transfer RAW, see - http://www.eye.fi/prod​ucts/prox2#raw (external link), but there's no point imo as your smartphone can't view it anyway, except maybe for emergency backup.

It probably will consume lots of battery on both your camera and smartphone thou, as the RAW files are obviously large.


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Jul 20, 2013 09:35 |  #22

I've made a WiFi tutorial for EOS 6D, but sorry: it's in german language, but with many pictures.
http://www.mediafire.c​om …8ps/WLAN_Spass_​EOS_6D.pdf (external link)


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Jul 20, 2013 11:59 |  #23

birder_herper wrote in post #16137071 (external link)
I do have a question: I shoot solely in RAW. The image on the LCD after I take an image, from what I am to understand, is a JPEG representation of the RAW shot I just took. Will I be able to send a JPEG of the RAW shot to my smartphone, or would I have to start shooting in RAW + JPEG?

I shoot only in RAW. When you use the EOS Remote app to download images from the camera to your phone, it automatically converts RAW to S2 (1920x1280) jpg.




  
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Jul 20, 2013 18:41 |  #24

Greyson--Thanks! That is good news. Hopefully a wi-fi camera is in my future.




  
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Jul 20, 2013 19:20 as a reply to  @ birder_herper's post |  #25

I recently purchased the Eye Fi pro x2 16 gig card to use when I shoot events and print on-site. It will transfer to my laptop via the wi-fi as I shoot and automatically import the S2 jpegs into my Darkroom event software working file and into my slideshow file. It will also automatically send copies of the jpegs to my Smug-Mug account into a gallery I will have set up for the event as proofs. I shoot RAW into my CF that I can use later for photos that are ordered of my web site.

I print the JPEGS at the event with very little changes from how they come from the camera. My wife does the printing. We use a Verizon Puc for our internet access when we don't have a wi-fi at the event. We have 2 DNP Dye-Sub printers, one prints 5x7, the other 8x10s. The Eye-Fi card takes all the card swaps out of the process, the card swaps were a problem.


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Jul 20, 2013 19:55 |  #26

The Toshiba Flashair, creates its own little hotspot, just like you can with an iPhone 5.
Then you can log into that and you have remote wifi anywhere.
My use, check my exposure and af on my iPad4 - full retina screen is pretty close.
Clients like to be able to have an idea of what is coming down the line.
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Jul 20, 2013 20:33 |  #27

This all sounds like a solution looking for a problem. Anything WiFi with lots of Megabits will take a few seconds to transfer. Add that to the tons of WiFi signals out in the world that your system has to compete with (you are all using the same set of Radio Frequencies like the person next to you in Starbucks doing a Video Call) and the data can get very slow. Yes the buffer in your camera can compensate for some of that but eventually you get to the Brick Wall of WAIT. I carry and use large memory sticks and change them out when they near 90%, then back them up to my laptop. Yes, I am a Semi-Pro Photo guy but I know RF Radio communications all the way around and I am not using WiFi out of my camera for any use.


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Jul 20, 2013 22:48 as a reply to  @ post 16138829 |  #28

would love to have wifi when doing landscape pictures, would be great to view the images on a larger screen like the iPad when your In the field. Check that you got the focus perfectly or anything that you didnt notice on the little lcd on the camera.


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Jul 20, 2013 23:47 |  #29

One handy use I've found for the WiFi is being able to stand in the family photo and compose/focus (and then immediately check to see who blinked) instead of leaving a gap between family members for you to step into and then running back and forth. Not really a good justification for buying a camera, but convenient if you already have it.




  
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Jul 21, 2013 09:49 |  #30

Steviewonder1 wrote in post #16138595 (external link)
This all sounds like a solution looking for a problem. Anything WiFi with lots of Megabits will take a few seconds to transfer. Add that to the tons of WiFi signals out in the world that your system has to compete with (you are all using the same set of Radio Frequencies like the person next to you in Starbucks doing a Video Call) and the data can get very slow. Yes the buffer in your camera can compensate for some of that but eventually you get to the Brick Wall of WAIT. I carry and use large memory sticks and change them out when they near 90%, then back them up to my laptop. Yes, I am a Semi-Pro Photo guy but I know RF Radio communications all the way around and I am not using WiFi out of my camera for any use.

I've not run into any transfer issues using an Eye-Fi card on any of my cameras. And even if it did take more than a few seconds to transfer a photo, so what? Is this what we've become now, waiting more than 5-7 seconds for something to happen is too long? How long does it take to transfer and process the photos from your memory stick? With wifi, it's all done automatically while you do other things.


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