Another victim of the digital age...
I haven't found any link in English yet 
In the meantime, here is a link if french: http://www.rts.ch …a-eviter-la-faillite.html![]()
and one in German http://www.handelszeitung.ch …lford-ist-bankrott-476134![]()
DDA Formerly foolish member. Waiting for new title. 9,354 posts Likes: 3 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Between a cow, a clock and tons of chocolate... More info | Jul 30, 2013 12:59 | #1 Another victim of the digital age... DDA - C&C welcomed and encouraged
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Tony-S Cream of the Crop 9,911 posts Likes: 209 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA More info | Jul 30, 2013 13:28 | #2 That's not Ilford the film and paper company, which is owned by Harmon. That's Ilford the ink-jet paper company. "Raw" is not an acronym, abbreviation, nor a proper noun; thus, it should not be in capital letters.
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BenRubinstein Member 76 posts Joined Feb 2007 More info | Jul 31, 2013 08:22 | #3 Isn't the inkjet paper company Harmon which then bought the film company?
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Tony-S Cream of the Crop 9,911 posts Likes: 209 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA More info | Jul 31, 2013 08:44 | #4 It's my understanding they are subsidiaries of Harmon, but the ink jet paper is manufactured by a company in France, while the film and photo paper are manufactured in the UK. It's the subsidiary in France that's filed for bankruptcy protection. Ilford film appears to be doing quite well, now that they're almost the last company left making film products. "Raw" is not an acronym, abbreviation, nor a proper noun; thus, it should not be in capital letters.
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Nathan Can you repeat the question, please? More info | Jul 31, 2013 09:38 | #5 So wait... what's this mean for Gallerie papers? Taking photos with a fancy camera does not make me a photographer.
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Jul 31, 2013 18:24 | #6 I don't know but it's true the paper/inkjet/ film industry are all "victims of the digital age"
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DDA THREAD STARTER Formerly foolish member. Waiting for new title. 9,354 posts Likes: 3 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Between a cow, a clock and tons of chocolate... More info | Aug 01, 2013 17:16 | #7 Tony-S wrote in post #16167026 That's not Ilford the film and paper company, which is owned by Harmon. That's Ilford the ink-jet paper company. Ok, thanks for clearing that up Tony-S wrote in post #16169325 It's my understanding they are subsidiaries of Harmon, but the ink jet paper is manufactured by a company in France, while the film and photo paper are manufactured in the UK. It's the subsidiary in France that's filed for bankruptcy protection. Ilford film appears to be doing quite well, now that they're almost the last company left making film products. It's in Switzerland, not in France Nathan wrote in post #16169478 So wait... what's this mean for Gallerie papers? Probably the end... DDA - C&C welcomed and encouraged
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Luckless Goldmember 3,064 posts Likes: 189 Joined Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada More info | Aug 01, 2013 17:39 | #8 watt100 wrote in post #16170940 I don't know but it's true the paper/inkjet/ film industry are all "victims of the digital age" The last report I read on the matter suggested that the usage of paper has been on a steady and strong rise for the last 30 years. Everyone goes on and on about the 'paperless era', where everything will be digital, but we keep making easier and easier methods of printing. Canon EOS 7D | EF 28 f/1.8 | EF 85 f/1.8 | EF 70-200 f/4L | EF-S 17-55 | Sigma 150-500
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sheawyatt Goldmember 1,412 posts Likes: 30 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Victoria, BC More info | Aug 01, 2013 19:56 | #9 Ugh. All I use is Galerie papers. Stock up or make the switch to something different now. What a downer, their new Galerie papers are soooooo nice. EOS R5 | RF 15-35 f/2.8 | RF 24-70 f/2.8 | RF 70-200 f/4 | EF 400 f/4 DO II | EF 1.4x III |
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Shadowblade Cream of the Crop More info | Aug 01, 2013 21:38 | #10 I was never a fan of Ilford inkjet papers. They really love their optical brighteners, and the Gold Fibre Silk is so fragile.
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Aug 01, 2013 21:45 | #11 i've never been a fan of ilford inkjet papers either. i have plenty of unused stuff lying around everywhere Retouching
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Aug 02, 2013 05:57 | #12 Luckless wrote in post #16173686 The last report I read on the matter suggested that the usage of paper has been on a steady and strong rise for the last 30 years. I'm not sure I believe those reports
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sjones Goldmember 2,261 posts Likes: 248 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Chicago More info | Paper use on the rise:
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Luckless Goldmember 3,064 posts Likes: 189 Joined Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada More info | Aug 02, 2013 09:09 | #14 watt100 wrote in post #16174864 I'm not sure I believe those reports 30 years ago, how many people had printers in their homes? Canon EOS 7D | EF 28 f/1.8 | EF 85 f/1.8 | EF 70-200 f/4L | EF-S 17-55 | Sigma 150-500
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Nathan Can you repeat the question, please? More info | Aug 02, 2013 11:35 | #15 I found this here: http://www.filmbodies.com …iews/not-that-ilford.html Yes, indeed, Ilford Imaging Switzerland is apparently insolvent. But that's the Ilford that makes mostly Galerie photographic inkjet paper and was bought by an investment firm from Oji Paper of Japan, which was the entity that got the Ilfochrome and inkjet paper business when Ilford originally went through bankruptcy in 2004. The company now in bankruptcy is not the Ilford Photo based in UK that makes the B&W film and developing chemicals. This is probably a good time to remind people of what happened during the original bankruptcy: the main brand name and the color end of the business went to Oji Paper, the black and white side went to Harman Technology, a company created by former Ilford managers. Harman also made inkjet papers, but those appeared under the Harmon name, not Ilford. Yes, confusing. When brands die it is rarely pretty how things turn out. But the good news is that the film-producing side of Ilford is still in business, and as far as I know, healthy. We're going to have this same problem with Kodak, too, since Kodak did the same kind of splitting up of various units in bankruptcy, many of which retain the right to use the Kodak brand name. Worse still, the brand name in Kodak's case is also licensed by the main company to others in several cases, such as cameras. So be careful when you see the word "bankrupt" associated with these split-up entities that only refer to the brand name. Jul 31, 2013 Taking photos with a fancy camera does not make me a photographer.
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