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Aug 05, 2013 14:10 |  #1

For mostly Fuji film 35mm slides. Speed of scan is not a concern, just a high quality scan with accurate color and dynamic range. These are not archived slides, but current and locally processed.

Or please feel free to suggest something else in this price range!

Why?

Well, the moment I got my first roll of Velvia 50 back, I was hooked:

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Aug 05, 2013 14:20 |  #2

that's a fantastic image, exposed very well to get most of the background!
you're making me regret selling the 135L for travelling, now I'm tempted on getting another one.

I bought a v600 and the main reason why I went with it is because I scan 120 film as well.
if you plan on scanning 35mm then I would say invest on a dedicated film scanner like plustek

although I'm overall happy with the v600
a 35mm and 120 scan

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Aug 05, 2013 14:31 |  #3

Cheers sir! Those are absolutely breathtaking - I see you enjoy Velvia as well. I'm just starting back into film, but yes I do want to retain the ability to scan 120 film for the future.

I did some pixel peeping on both images, and I must say - that's some pretty fantastic detail. What led you to buy the V600 versus the Canon, or even the V700?


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Aug 05, 2013 15:04 |  #4

In this price range, the Plustek 8100 or 8200 will blow away either of these scanners for 35mm. Flatbeds just don't cut it for 35mm, except for very small prints or web use.

But for ~$300, the Plustek 8100 will offer far better resolution than any flatbed. It's just ok in terms of DR, but I've found it adequate for all but the deepest shadows in a Velvia chrome. For Provia, Astia, Ektachrome Kodachrome, etc, it's fine.


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Aug 05, 2013 16:39 |  #5

Besides better scans over a flatbed, the plustek also has no surfaces to keep clean and no film flatness issues (as far as I know), I scan with a v700 and honestly, flatbeds are a pain in the butt. Its nice being able to do any format and get good results, but if I was more dedicated to 35mm I'd buy a used older model plustek like the 7400 or even shell out for something like a coolscan V.




  
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Aug 06, 2013 01:31 |  #6

edge100 wrote in post #16183472 (external link)
In this price range, the Plustek 8100 or 8200 will blow away either of these scanners for 35mm. Flatbeds just don't cut it for 35mm, except for very small prints or web use.

But for ~$300, the Plustek 8100 will offer far better resolution than any flatbed. It's just ok in terms of DR, but I've found it adequate for all but the deepest shadows in a Velvia chrome. For Provia, Astia, Ektachrome Kodachrome, etc, it's fine.

I did want the ability to scan larger formats, but even if I was to convince myself that I will only stick to 35mm (which is sensible from a financial standpoint), I will likely continue to keep shooting Velvia for as long as it's available. And I'm a bit shocked that this Plustek is priced nearly the same as the above mentioned flatbeds.

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Besides better scans over a flatbed, the plustek also has no surfaces to keep clean and no film flatness issues (as far as I know), I scan with a v700 and honestly, flatbeds are a pain in the butt. Its nice being able to do any format and get good results, but if I was more dedicated to 35mm I'd buy a used older model plustek like the 7400 or even shell out for something like a coolscan V.

I understand this is a common opinion, that flatbeds aren't ideal. But, when you say you get good results, would you say you are satisfied with your 35mm images?


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Aug 06, 2013 06:52 |  #7

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I did want the ability to scan larger formats, but even if I was to convince myself that I will only stick to 35mm (which is sensible from a financial standpoint), I will likely continue to keep shooting Velvia for as long as it's available. And I'm a bit shocked that this Plustek is priced nearly the same as the above mentioned flatbeds.

The 9000F is fine for medium format, where it produces fine results up to A3+ or higher. Obviously, a dedicated 120 scanner is a better choice, but they're very expensive, with the lowest entry point being the new Plustek 120 at $2000.

In my experience, the 9000F offers slightly more dynamic range than the Plustek (DR is the biggest weakness of the Plustek), but less than half the linear resolution. Velvia is odd; very high resolution but very high contrast. You really need a top end scanner to get at those deep shadows, but the Plustek will easily capture all the resolution. The flatbed does neither.


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Aug 06, 2013 09:05 |  #8

ken2000ac wrote in post #16184813 (external link)
I understand this is a common opinion, that flatbeds aren't ideal. But, when you say you get good results, would you say you are satisfied with your 35mm images?

I'm satisfied enough, for my purposes the v700 is fine, but I haven't printed a 35mm scan from it above 4x6 so I'm not the best judge.

Also keep in mind the v700, v750 and 4990 are the only epsons that do large format.




  
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Aug 06, 2013 09:42 as a reply to  @ iamascientist's post |  #9

don't forget the v600 too ;)

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Cheers sir! Those are absolutely breathtaking - I see you enjoy Velvia as well. I'm just starting back into film, but yes I do want to retain the ability to scan 120 film for the future.

I did some pixel peeping on both images, and I must say - that's some pretty fantastic detail. What led you to buy the V600 versus the Canon, or even the V700?

im actually more a provia shooter, just decided to finish all my velvia :lol:
although I have to admit that velvia just makes some stunning colors
main reason I went with the v600 is the cost, boss gave me $200 GC for amazon so bought the v600 right away.

if exposed and developed properly, I can print a scanned 35mm at 5x7
8x12 for 120

here's 2 6x15 prints taken with the xpan, HP5+ scanned with the v600

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