BasketBall some with 85 and some with 70-200mm

I have some new Basketbal pictures to share. Some with the Canon 85mm and some with Sigma 70-200mm. Hope you enjoy them. I don't mind comments.
I was pretty pleased with the 70-200mm even though its nowhere as sharp or fast as the 85mm but this lens is still a little tight. I'm not talking about the crop either. It seems that as I have used this lens, it seems to becoming a faster focusing lens if you can believe it. A freind of mine who uses this model states that it would get better with use, I am honestly starting to believe him. So here goes

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I found that shooting with the 85mm on my 20D that it was hard to get good framing, it seemed too tight unless I stood back from the court. I had a problem getting the player, hoop and floor in the frame. not to say that you always need that but on some shots I like to show them all.

Thats very true about the 85mm. I do try to be down at the corner so I understand what you are saying. However, I was not fortunate to have the room I needed to get a straight on comming shot, this my focus is off somewhat. Actually they print pretty well. About the ony thing you can do then is to step back, if you got the room, or possibly laying on your back by the net (just kidding).
The 85s a great lens stopped down to 2.0. Most of the shots with the 70-200 were at 2.8, ISO 3200, and I was getting 320-400 shutter speeds. I can do 500-1200 in this gym wiyj the 85mm, so I thought I'd give the 70-200 a try.

I like number five in this series. It's sharp and clear with good, tight action. It's difficult at first to become accustomed to shooting tight with the 85. It helped me to shoot with the 100 for a while. When I put the 85 back on the camera, it looked almost wide angle.

I also steped down to f/2 last night as reccomended by Liza on another post. I got some great shots at ISO 1600 and about 1/600 to 1/800

If i use my 85mm at 1.8 my DOF is pretty large, right (just trying to understand this stuff)?

Thanks Liza, I agree #5 is probably the best. But here again the action is almost directly in front of me. I believe, and I could be wrong that on other shots that I have taken with my 85mm, that my focus was much better when the action was comming directly to me or going away rather than when I have to pan the shot. Perdicive focus in AL focus does do this a bit better in the former. But I notice in the 85mm because I can 1-Set and get a faster shutter speed, 2- don't have to use a higher ISO. and lastly, swing the bigger, heavier lens that my pictures are much sharper. The 85mm usm is also much faster to focus as well. Poor old 10d isn't quite as fast to focus as a 20d or any Mark I series camera. But it's still a very capable camera. Hey, I'll admit it I need more practice, and I'll get it on Thursday night.
I do like that idea of the 100mm and then going to the 85. It would really teach you how to compose the picture and probably give the impression of wide angle after using it. I figure a 85mm would give you a 135mm perspective on a 1.6 crop and a 160mm on a 100mm, that a quite a change in perspective.
Again Thank You.

I'm not sure if anyone said this already as I am tired and not in the mood to read, but you should crop these images a lot tighter. Wasted space showing the crowd or players not involved in the actual play itself is wasted picture and takes away from the action you are trying to convey.