The 17th UK South-East "The Summer of Awesomeness" Thread (All Welcome)

Nanscombe wrote in post #16895337
Currently National Minimum Wage is £6.31 / hour for someone over 21.

90 minutes per site, looking around getting your shots? 4 * 1.5 * 6.31 = £37.86

3 hours of post production? 3 * 6.31 = £18.93

That's £56.79 before you start adding in fuel / fares, travel time, tax, insurance, **ahem** VAT **ahem** etc

That's also assuming you didn't want to charge for licensing their usage of the photos.
I found a usage calculator on the Association of Photographers website.

32 images.
Print - Brochures
Digital - Company website
European Union Only

1 years usage - £96
5 years usage - £336
10 years usage - £576


Who's it for? Ah. £10 for petrol and they'll throw in a photo credit.

An interesting and salutory insight into what to be the min pricing when pitching to do commercial work.

FWIW I will be printing this out

Mark49s wrote in post #16895542
Thanks for the replies so far guys, at the moment i'm sort of stuck between making the quote low enough to be attractive to the Council (and possibly get some more work in the future), whilst trying to ensure it'll be financially viable etc for me.

Thanks for the suggestions chaps, the business side of things is all new to me!

Jonathan wrote in post #16896399
This is a bit of a bug bear of mine. Firstly, remember that you are doing the work of a professional photographer and by professional, I mean someone you pays his mortgage from his work. So don't do it for free, for almost free or the biggest lie in the industry - recognition. Work out a fair rate as if it's your job not your hobby. You can bet the person asking you for this is getting paid properly.

This clip sums it up. http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=PuLr9HG2ASs

And good luck!

Ronin Silv wrote in post #16896520
You've got to pitch a price that's fair which is always hard but what Laurence is fair you cold even try for a little more.

I like that JD, the trouble with the photography game is there are to many " photographers " out there who will do it for "credit " or free as it is more communally known a couple of weeks a go a hotel in Folkestone asked local photographers on facebook to give them photos for their website and I quote " we will credit the photographer ". My reply was can I stay in one of your room for free I'll credit you. I have also lost count of the amount of " models " who have contacted me say how much they like my work and how much they want to work with me only to follow with my rates are, when you point out to them that they are asking to work with me so they should be asking what my rates are they normally reply with photography is free because it's digital my time costs. This sums up people attitude to photography now it's digital so is free as you don't have to buy film etc. End of my little rant.

I suppose if and correctly so one is pitching properly to "pay your mortgage/put food on the table" then you must calculate it right. If the money on the table is not that minimum then (perhaps) best to pass on the 'offer'

Sylvester XxX wrote in post #16896596
http://www.cactus-image.com …sh_transceiver/​index.html

Buy it!

Now that does look interesting as I have the an old 420 EZ as well the 430EX and as I read it the Cactus will give good control of both

Sylvester XxX wrote in post #16896611
Grab a copy of this.

http://www.the-aop.org …/beyond-the-lens/overview


And a read of some of this.

http://www.aphotoedito​r.com/category/pricing​-negotiating/


Bear in mind the costs in producing the shoot, the post-production, permits,food, travel, releases and insurance.

£100 would almost cover my "real" costs to do this job!

Good luck!

Many thanks for those links ~ good insights

Type happy today ~ using an Android phone.........open to feedback and advice ref must have apps and good optional ones. Such as AV anti Malware, sun ephemeris, App Killers to close resource hogging apps end bloc??? This phone is running Android 4.2.2 if that affects what is suggested.

Had a great day at the Apex VW show al Lydden today. The weather wasn't the greatest but saw some lovely old buses .

Exactly what MK2's were designed for. Sideways motion.

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Slapheadyeti wrote in post #16897183
Had a great day at the Apex VW show al Lydden today. The weather wasn't the greatest but saw some lovely old buses .

Exactly what MK2's were designed for. Sideways motion.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/nhVv​ji Escort Drift Side by slapheadyeti, on Flickr

Some oddities too. Unless you know what they are for.

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Old Rat style Bus

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There were some seriously lowered things there today. But none more so that this.

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Cracking set Wayne, are you looking to adjust your cam timing then? That bus is a corker love the bettina on it.

Thanks Dom. I dont think that would be much good for adjusting the timing on my motor. LOL

Wayne, love the Mk2, any more??

Also Love this x1.4 converter and Bigma setup...handheld at 700mm no IS/OS using the 1D Mk2.

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Radders wrote in post #16899199
Wayne, love the Mk2, any more??

Also Love this x1.4 converter and Bigma setup...handheld at 700mm no IS/OS using the 1D Mk2.

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Cheers Radders. I do have some more, but need a bit of time to process them.

700mm is quite a reach.

It is and what I want for air shows, can't wait to use it in anger. It's easier than I thought handholding it with no OS too..

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Opposite end of 700mm....

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Quiet in here..

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Radders wrote in post #16904065
Quiet in here..

Just when I was nodding off someone flies a naffin great big jet through the room

Uhoh I hope Chris doesn't see that spider!

nice plane.

Couple of my faves from the last week...

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