-= 70D owners unite! Post up pics and discuss!

ruhikant wrote in post #16370426
Big Bird at 1000 mm.

OMG,... how'd you do that? Looks great. I'm new to this stuff and tried a couple moon shots with little to no success at all. See what I mean? I got about 20 more just as un-impressive as this one. LOL!

Just got more to learn I guess, but this shot is gorgeous ruhikant!

EricJrSax wrote in post #16378982
OMG,... how'd you do that? Looks great. I'm new to this stuff and tried a couple moon shots with little to no success at all. See what I mean? I got about 20 more just as un-impressive as this one. LOL!

Just got more to learn I guess, but this shot is gorgeous ruhikant!

Eric


Shoot at: (These are starting points, you obviously can go to F11 and a shutter of 1/160)

1/400-640
ISO 100-400
F4-5.6

And you should net a surface pic with a 200mm+ lens daily.

Very nice, why did you decide to replace the 7D with it?

Keyan wrote in post #16378991
Very nice, why did you decide to replace the 7D with it?

I don't know, I guess there were a few features that appealed to me such as better video AF (shoot videos occasionally), slightly better IQ, AF microadjustment for both ends of a zoom lens, the ability to set minimum shutter speed in the Auto ISO menu, lighter body (yes, to me it's a plus), the in-viewfinder level that doesn't disappear when half pressing the shutter. Even the high ISO noise is of different nature and cleans up easier than the 7D's.
Also, I own a 6D too and its controls are very close to the 70D's.
Of course there are some features that I lose when I sell the 7D but it's a small price to me.

Loving this new body + lens

gabebalazs wrote in post #16379006
... the ability to set minimum shutter speed in the Auto ISO menu, lighter body (yes, to me it's a plus),

my mind is drawing a blank here - can you explain to my tiny mind this feature and perhaps a benefit or example please?

I too was pleased to get the lighter/smaller 60D vs my heavier larger 50D...

Immaculens wrote in post #16379019
my mind is drawing a blank here - can you explain to my tiny mind this feature and perhaps a benefit or example please?

I too was pleased to get the lighter/smaller 60D vs my heavier larger 50D...

good question

First, let's presume we're in AUTO ISO mode.

Short answer: I have more control over my shutter speed in AV mode while using auto ISO.

Long answer/explanation:

Let's say you're shooting a relatively low-light indoor event. You want to shoot at your preferred aperture (e.g. f/2.8). However, in AV mode the camera may choose a shutter speed that may be too low, such as 1/30 since you're zoomed out at around 24mm to 30mm (the camera is trying to apply the 1/focal length rule of thumb to determine shutter speed).
While that shutter speed is sufficient enough to eliminate camera shake (unless you're really shaky), it may be too slow to eliminate motion blur resulting from our subjects, the people moving around.

So you may think of switching to TV but then there is a good chance that your preferred aperture is gone since the camera now decides what aperture it wants to shoot at.

OK then, let's use Manual mode with auto ISO. Now that mode almost works for us, UNTIL we want to do some exposure compensation. Canon's manual mode does not allow that (Nikon does), since hey, it's manual mode, adjust your parameters if you want different exposure etc.

Sometimes things happen fast and maybe I don't have time to fiddle with my dials (I know that many pros are better than me...).
So this is where the minimum shutter speed in auto ISO comes into play.

I know I need 1/60 minimum speed, I know I want to shoot at f/2.8, and I want auto ISO to compensate for the quick variations in light and scene, BUT at the same time I also want to overexpose by +2/3. I can't do that in manual mode, but I can do that in AV by setting the minimum shutter speed at 1/60. So I have the desired 1/60 minimum, I have my aperture set at 2.8, I'm overexposing by 2/3 while auto ISO is taking care of everything else (within limits of course.)
This is without flash, using only available light. If we get a flash into the equation, it gets more complicated.

There you go Sorry about the long answer.

I've read through quite a lot of this thread as I'm considering buying a 70D. I began by considering the 7D for it's robustness, being a bit more weather sealed, and having a larger viewfinder than the 600D I currently use. I'm just a keen amateur BTW.

When I picked up the 7D I really liked the feel of it in my hand the slightly larger grip felt really nice, but then I noticed it doesn't have an articulated screen, which I use a lot on my 600D.

I guess I'm wondering if there's anyone here who went from a 600D to a 70D, and whether they liked it, thought it was better etc.

It seems the adjustment for me would be easier to a 70D also, as I understand they are similar in controls etc.

Thanks for any advice or ideas.

Immaculens wrote in post #16379019
my mind is drawing a blank here - can you explain to my tiny mind this feature and perhaps a benefit or example please?

I too was pleased to get the lighter/smaller 60D vs my heavier larger 50D...

It is for the P or Av modes - you can tell the camera when using Auto ISO to not let the shutter drop below a certain speed, i.e. you can tell it that you don't want it to go below 1/250 and it will instead boost the ISO to make the exposure. Good for shooting action or animals.

Whoops late on my reply - the exposure comp is a really good point that I had not considered.

The 70D is still a step up viewfinder wise from the Rebel line. It is the best of both worlds I think.

Thank-you gents ~ Appreciated!

its true my question was coming from the perspective of "how does this help in Manual Mode"...

gabebalazs wrote in post #16379118
good question...

Let's say you're shooting a relatively low-light indoor event. You want to shoot at your preferred aperture (e.g. f/2.8). However, in AV mode the camera may choose a shutter speed that may be too low, such as 1/30 since you're zoomed out at around 24mm to 30mm (the camera is trying to apply the 1/focal length rule of thumb to determine shutter speed).
While that shutter speed is sufficient enough to eliminate camera shake (unless you're really shaky), it may be too slow to eliminate motion blur resulting from our subjects, the people moving around.

So you may think of switching to TV but then there is a good chance that your preferred aperture is gone since the camera now decides what aperture it wants to shoot at.

OK then, let's use Manual mode with auto ISO. Now that mode almost works for us, UNTIL we want to do some exposure compensation. Canon's manual mode does not allow that (Nikon does), since hey, it's manual mode, adjust your parameters if you want different exposure etc.

Sometimes things happen fast and maybe I don't have time to fiddle with my dials (I know that many pros are better than me...).
So this is where the minimum shutter speed in auto ISO comes into play.

I know I need 1/60 minimum speed, I know I want to shoot at f/2.8, and I want auto ISO to compensate for the quick variations in light and scene, BUT at the same time I also want to overexpose by +2/3. I can't do that in manual mode, but I can do that in AV by setting the minimum shutter speed at 1/60. So I have the desired 1/60 minimum, I have my aperture set at 2.8, I'm overexposing by 2/3 while auto ISO is taking care of everything else (within limits of course.)
This is without flash, using only available light. If we get a flash into the equation, it gets more complicated.

There you go Sorry about the long answer.

Keyan wrote in post #16379139
It is for the P or Av modes - you can tell the camera when using Auto ISO to not let the shutter drop below a certain speed, i.e. you can tell it that you don't want it to go below 1/250 and it will instead boost the ISO to make the exposure. Good for shooting action or animals.

Keyan wrote in post #16379145
Whoops late on my reply - the exposure comp is a really good point that I had not considered.

Keyan wrote in post #16379149
The 70D is still a step up viewfinder wise from the Rebel line. It is the best of both worlds I think.

I remember looking through my XSi Viewfinder for the first time compared to my SX10 and I proclaimed "I can see!"

then I got my 50D and I again proclaimed in comparison "I can see!"

tried my friend's 5D3 over the summer and I further proclaimed "I can see!!!"

That treatise Gabe wrote above, if you take it to heart you can learn a lot about modern digital photography and the workings of the 70D. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge in such a short space.

Very good explanation of an option the 70d contains.
Its looking more and more like an upgrade to the 7d.