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Canon 17-40 on a crop sensor?

 
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Aug 27, 2013 01:19 |  #1

Hello everyone. I just wanted some thoughts on how well a canon 17-40 would work on a crop sensor body for wide angle shots. I have been looking around and I really like the lens, but it might not be wide enough. I have heard that the canon 17-55 is a great lens, but with plans on upgrading to a full frame camera eventually I cant justify getting it.

What are your thoughts and experiences with a 17-40 on a crop sensor?


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Aug 27, 2013 02:39 |  #2

You have a 600D, so multiply any focal lengths by 1.6 to find what they would be like on a true full-frame.
17-40 is 28-64.
Now, 28mm might seem wide... and most compact pocket cameras start at that length.
If want the equivalent of 17-40 on your 600D you'll need a 10-25.
Canon do the 10-22 just for this purpose.

How soon are you going FF?
Personally I would buy the EFS 10-22.
Whenever you do go FF just sell it and use the money to fund a 17-40.

I never understand the "I can't justify it because I'm going FF eventually".
In which case don't spend £500 on a new lens for your crop, sell the 600D and put the money, together with the £500 you were spending anyway towards a FF right now.
The 2 lenses you already own will be better on FF rather than a crop anyway.


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Aug 27, 2013 03:26 |  #3

Tamron 17-50 none VC is sharper than 17-40 L
I was happy with my Tamron when I had crop body its like 24-70 on FF , wide enough for every day use
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Aug 27, 2013 03:33 |  #4

17-40mm L is very sharp. and enjoyed it for Landscapes. I would say on par to the 50mm f1.4 USM


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Aug 27, 2013 03:51 |  #5

Works great on crop cams.

egrewalphoto wrote in post #16243253 (external link)
Hello everyone. I just wanted some thoughts on how well a canon 17-40 would work on a crop sensor body for wide angle shots. I have been looking around and I really like the lens, but it might not be wide enough. I have heard that the canon 17-55 is a great lens, but with plans on upgrading to a full frame camera eventually I cant justify getting it.

What are your thoughts and experiences with a 17-40 on a crop sensor?


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Aug 27, 2013 03:53 |  #6
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If you want/like wide, 24mm equivalent would be ideal. But I just got a 24-105 (38.4mm equivalent) and have no problem with it for all my shooting. I will eventually get a 100-400 though and some other lenses to bounce around.




  
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Aug 27, 2013 04:01 |  #7

Unless your plans to upgrade are definite and within the next half-year or so, forget them and buy the most suitable lenses for the camera you have now. You can buy used and resell for little to no loss when and if you do indeed go FF. IMO it is not at all smart to limit yourself to FF-only lenses if you are not 100% certain you will be getting an FF body in the very near future.


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Aug 27, 2013 04:13 |  #8

Well the 17-40 will be just as wide as the 17-55 lens. Is that wide enough? If you have the 18-55 kit lens laying around then 17mm is just a tiny bit wider than 18mm. If that's not wide enough for your needs then you might want to think about an ultra-wide angle lens, such as as the 10-22mm.

The 17-55 lens has a few advantages over the 17-40 lens - it has image stabilisation and it's a whole stop faster at f/2.8. It's also longer (55mm vs 40mm). It kinda makes more sense to buy one of these unless you plan to go fullframe at any point in the near future.

Having owned both, the 17-55 was the lens I used most on my camera, but I was never really blown away with the image quality. Maybe it was just my copy. The 17-40 seems to have better overall image quality, but your mileage may vary :)


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Aug 27, 2013 05:24 |  #9
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It will work just fine. There are better options. The Tamron 17-50 non-VC is sharper, faster, longer and cheaper. The 17-55 is faster, a bit longer, sharper and has IS. The 10-22 is a much better lens than any of the others I listed, and it is truly UWA on a crop sensor camera. None of these lenses will work very well (at all?) on FF. Buy for the body you have now. You'll get better results.


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Aug 27, 2013 05:30 |  #10

i didnt like the 17-40 on my 7d. its a fine UWA on FF, but not a good walkaround lens on a crop IMO.


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Aug 27, 2013 07:18 |  #11

Sirrith wrote in post #16243433 (external link)
Unless your plans to upgrade are definite and within the next half-year or so, forget them and buy the most suitable lenses for the camera you have now. You can buy used and resell for little to no loss when and if you do indeed go FF. IMO it is not at all smart to limit yourself to FF-only lenses if you are not 100% certain you will be getting an FF body in the very near future.

+1. While the 17-40L works fine on a crop body, there are better options from Canon, Sigma and Tamron that will provide better range, image stabilization and/or faster maximum aperture. Get the lens that best meets your needs now, not for some undetermined future date where you may upgrade to full frame.

The Canon EFS 17-55 f/2.8 IS was my primary walk around lens when I only owned a crop body, and it was very versatile. I sold the lens when I added a 5D3 full frame body to my kit. I also had an EFS 10-22mm for UWA (still need to get around to selling that one). If I had to do it over again now, though, I would probably go with the EFS 15-85 IS instead, and supplement it with fast primes. This has been my approach since going full frame -- supplementing the 24-105L with fast primes, and adding a 17-40L for UWA.


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Aug 27, 2013 07:24 |  #12

I like it on crop. There are lenses with greater range, but it is sharp with good contrast and color. I am eyeing full frame in a couple of months, and didn't want to invest in more crop glass.




  
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Aug 27, 2013 10:37 |  #13

I own the 17-40L but I wouldn't buy it for APS-C. It is not an ultrawide on APS-C, not fast and it is not even sharp at f4 (wide open).
I would either buy the Canon 10-22 (or Tokina 11-16) for UWA or buy the Canon 17-55 2.8 IS for a walkaround (standard zoom) lens.
By the way there is a cheapo option.: Tamron 17-50 2.8 non VC (standard zoom) or Sigma 10-20 (UWA).


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Aug 27, 2013 11:03 |  #14

I'd get a used UWA and then you can sell it for maybe 5-10% loss when you upgrade. Besides, after upgrading to FF, your 24-70 would be wider than a 17-40 will be now on your crop camera. This is the biggest issue I have with people saying they are buying lenses for when they upgrade later. When they upgrade, all their lenses are suddenly 1/1.6x wider. Right now your 24-70 is like a 38-111 would be on FF. So either the range sucks for you now, or it's going to be too wide and short later. Same deal with the 70-200. Did you want 110-320 or 70-200mm range? Are you still going to like the 70-200 when it has only 62% of the reach it has now? You may end up selling it for a 70-300L anyway.

As for what to do now, Sigma 10-20mm is a great lens that can be found for a good price used and easily sold. Canon 10-22mm is a little more, but it probably won't lose any value when resold.


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Aug 27, 2013 12:19 |  #15

I've been contemplating this very same question. I've noticed that most people that actually use the 17-40 on the crop are very happy. Seems like it's the people without the 17-40 that suggest the 17-55.

17-55, and 15-85 sound great, but I worry about being able to easily re-sell them when I upgrade, which would be at least a year away. I just got the 60D.


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