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Aug 27, 2013 13:15 |  #16

My two favorite subjects as well.

Best option:
6D or 5DII + TS-E 24II or TS-E17 + 85LII
Budget FF option:
6D or 5DII + 17-40L + 85f/1.8
Crop:
70D + 10-22 or 11-16 + 85f/1.8


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Aug 27, 2013 13:48 |  #17

Thank you all very much for your thoughts, this has been incredibly helpful. I have cancelled my pre-order on the 70D and will start to weigh up FF options.




  
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Aug 27, 2013 14:15 |  #18

brass-monkey wrote in post #16244761 (external link)
Thank you all very much for your thoughts, this has been incredibly helpful. I have cancelled my pre-order on the 70D and will start to weigh up FF options.

oh, oh......you've let forumites dissuade you! Sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. I would make a list of what attracted you to the 70D in the first place and the feature-set that it has over full-frame. I use a really old 1DsII and it's the cat's meow as far as I'm concerned but may be long in the tooth for many others. I just saw one for sale (used) for $600!! Incredible camera for $600 but I also have my back-up 1D classic (which still works with over 300K actuations. I still use it for portaits since the colours and contrast are unlike any other 1-series body! Good luck.......




  
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Aug 27, 2013 14:21 |  #19

brass-monkey wrote in post #16244761 (external link)
Thank you all very much for your thoughts, this has been incredibly helpful. I have cancelled my pre-order on the 70D and will start to weigh up FF options.

bw!

you made the right choice for your type of photography. Tiltshift is where it's at. 17mm would be awesome as hell. If you can afford it, definitely go the FF route. Options just seem much better if you're not limited to focal length.


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Aug 27, 2013 14:24 |  #20

I think you did the right thing, crop camera is the last thing I would buy for architecture/landscape​.




  
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Aug 27, 2013 14:25 |  #21

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bw!

you made the right choice for your type of photography. Tiltshift is where it's at. 17mm would be awesome as hell. If you can afford it, definitely go the FF route. Options just seem much better if you're not limited to focal length.

I would go with 24mm TSE II, 17 is a very specialized lens that is mostly used in tight indoors. You will have to do a lot of cropping for outdoor shots.

There is also the sharpness difference between the two, 24 is superior when shifted.




  
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Aug 27, 2013 14:27 |  #22

Personally, I'd just keep what you have and get a 2nd-hand Canon 10-22 off ebay or somewhere and see how you like those super wide angles.
Then (should you decide go FF) just sell the Canon 10-22 and use the money to get a 2nd-hand 17-40 L (the 2nd hand prices are about the same).


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Aug 27, 2013 15:48 |  #23

Until the 17mm TSE came along, the widest tilt lens for archictectural work with FF was 24mm; 17mm on APS-C is only equivalent to 28mm on FF, so 10 degrees AOV less on 17mm with APS-C vs. 24mm on FF.

You can shoot architectural interiors with non-shift lens, but you need to be careful not to induce strong converging verticals due to the sensor plane not being perpendicular to the floor. Here is a shot taken at 11mm on APS-C taken with camera pointing downward; note the converging verticals

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/Shift-2.jpg

That means that you need to raise/lower the camera while also maintaining perpendicularity to the floor, when that can impact the composition. Both of these used conventional 11mm on APS-C
IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/chest.jpg
taken at chest height perpendicular to the floor (non shift)
IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/120cm.jpg
taken 170 cm off the floor (non shift)


Here is a shot taken with 24mm perspective correction (shift) lens on FF
IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/IMG_0004-1.jpg
Sorry for the shallow DOF, I shot this hurriedly without tripod simply to demonstrate view achieved with a shift lens, and low light prevented use of a suitably small aperture.

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