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Jan 26, 2006 16:34 |  #1

This is only my second black and white conversion. I have learned alot from some folks here and a few other forums. Comments, no matter how harsh, are welcome... As long as they have good intentions! :)

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Jan 26, 2006 16:48 |  #2

You should either crop it more to cut the tree out or (if it was already cropped) try showing more of the photo. i do like how the shadows are cast along the face though and b&w is a great effect for this kind of photo.


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Jan 26, 2006 16:59 as a reply to  @ 4nR's post |  #3

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You should either crop it more to cut the tree out or (if it was already cropped) try showing more of the photo. i do like how the shadows are cast along the face though and b&w is a great effect for this kind of photo.

I thought about cropping the tree out. But the problem is that how it hangs over the house I would never be able to get the whole tree out, so I figured it would stay.




  
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Jan 26, 2006 19:08 |  #4

Not sure, I got the crop the way you wanted it, but I did take out the tree hanging over the house.


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Jan 26, 2006 19:12 |  #5

That's emphasizing some perspective issues.


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Jan 26, 2006 19:22 |  #6

i prefer the original to the cropped version. nice job on this




  
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Jan 26, 2006 19:22 |  #7

The composition was better in your original post.
Are you aware of what causes your converging verticals?
It's because the camera is being tilted slightly off the horizontal when you took the shot. It may not be possible to get back far enough to avoid that, so the next best approach is to use "perspective correction" in PSCS. It's done with the "crop" tool. Once you lay in the crop selection, there is a checkbox called perspective to be checked. Then follow the instructions for perspective correction. It's easier said than done!

I don't think I got it exactly correct, but you should be able to see that the verticals are closer to vertical than they were.


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Jan 26, 2006 20:34 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #8

As Robert said, his might not have gotten it quite right, and I agree, there was still something a bit disorienting about his. Much better than the original, but still.

What about this. It is a combination of a global perspective and skew adjustment, then individual perspective and skews on the face, roof, and chimney.

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Jan 26, 2006 20:34 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #9

Robert_Lay wrote:
The composition was better in your original post.
Are you aware of what causes your converging verticals?
It's because the camera is being tilted slightly off the horizontal when you took the shot. It may not be possible to get back far enough to avoid that, so the next best approach is to use "perspective correction" in PSCS. It's done with the "crop" tool. Once you lay in the crop selection, there is a checkbox called perspective to be checked. Then follow the instructions for perspective correction. It's easier said than done!

I don't think I got it exactly correct, but you should be able to see that the verticals are closer to vertical than they were.

Nice robert, thanks for the tip.

Is this cause because of the upwards angle I took the shot on? I would think so, because the bottom looks wider.




  
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Jan 26, 2006 20:37 as a reply to  @ Radtech1's post |  #10

Radtech1 wrote:
As Robert said, his might not have gotten it quite right, and I agree, there was still something a bit disorienting about his. Much better than the original, but still.

What about this. It is a combination of a global perspective and skew adjustment, then individual perspective and skews on the face, roof, and chimney.

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Looks like I have alot of photoshop work to learn. How bout some input on how this is done??




  
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