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Is the 50mm 1.8 really so bad ?

 
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Aug 29, 2013 12:44 |  #1

I've shot 60 weddings with a set of gear that includes a 50mm 1.8, which I use probably more than any other lens. Although I have definitely had to become used to certain limitations it imposes (<f/2.2 is too soft to be usable for me at least, occasionally hunting in dim situations), I've had a really fabulous experience with it.

I'm at a stage at which I can obviously afford both upgrades--the 1.4 or the 1.2--but to be honest, I'm not sure exactly what the point of an upgrade will be for me, given that the 50 I have does what I need for it to do.

Am I insane ? Or incredibly stubborn ? Or is it possible that the differences between these lenses don't amount to anything that will change and improve the results I currently get ?



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Aug 29, 2013 12:48 |  #2

I should add that I'm in the process of, er, processing a recent wedding, and I noticed that in a couple of the shots during the processional, subjects in the background standing in front of the obviously very bright open door threshold, were rimmed slightly in a greenish tinge that was not chromatic abberation. Is this an example for which an upgrade would produce substantially different results ?



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Aug 29, 2013 13:02 |  #3

Greenish tinge? Sounds like front focusing.

My concern with using the 50mm 1.8 would be durability, there have been a few horror stories with that lens...


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Aug 29, 2013 13:07 |  #4

Chris, your photos look great! Colors are great!


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Aug 29, 2013 13:19 |  #5

It was a purposely OOF background that showed the slight halo.

I definitely have taken the durability claims about the 1.8 seriously and so have always rolled with 2 in case one blew up.

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Greenish tinge? Sounds like front focusing.

My concern with using the 50mm 1.8 would be durability, there have been a few horror stories with that lens...



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Aug 29, 2013 13:21 |  #6

Hey-thanks a lot !

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Aug 29, 2013 13:56 |  #7

I just don't like the build quality but I can't complain it's a 100$ lens and it creates some really sharp images IMO. Don't stress yourself over it you said it yourself..

" the 50 I have does what I need for it to do."

From what I understand your happy with the lens.. Save your money in case it dies then probably can upgrade at that moment.. 60 weddings in a lot it's good to know this plastic lens is holding up good.


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Aug 29, 2013 14:03 |  #8

If it works then leave it alone, it's a GREAT lens for the money, gives excellent results. I've owned my for over a year now and love it!

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Aug 29, 2013 14:05 |  #9

It is what it is. My fear in using it in a professional situation is that the build quality is spotty and it doesnt take much of a bump to do it harm. I have other issues with it (noisy and slow focus) but the image quality is certainly good enough for many circumstances. If I were using it as you say, it would have a twin in the bag for times when it fails.




  
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Aug 29, 2013 14:08 |  #10

I've dropped that lens on cement and seen parts fly every direction. So, I snapped them all back into place and kept on shooting! Love that lens.


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Aug 29, 2013 14:10 |  #11

gonzogolf wrote in post #16250809 (external link)
It is what it is. My fear in using it in a professional situation is that the build quality is spotty and it doesnt take much of a bump to do it harm. I have other issues with it (noisy and slow focus) but the image quality is certainly good enough for many circumstances. If I were using it as you say, it would have a twin in the bag for times when it fails.

From what I've read on these forums, you should do that with the Canon 50mm f/1.4 too!




  
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Aug 29, 2013 14:16 |  #12

I'm going to go against the tide here. For a focal length that you use the most, I'd want the best one possible. Sharpness-wise, they're similar. But when you compare the color rendering, build quality, bokeh, ability to shoot f/1.2, weather sealing, ect., the 50L just tops it. I recently upgraded from the 50 f/1.4 to the 50L about two months ago and don't regret it one bit.


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Aug 29, 2013 14:27 |  #13

frugivore wrote in post #16250819 (external link)
From what I've read on these forums, you should do that with the Canon 50mm f/1.4 too!

Perhaps, but I've seen more photos of the 1.8 II in two pieces because of a minor bump.




  
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Aug 29, 2013 14:39 |  #14

the 50L is currently my only lens (has been for almost 2.5 years now).

As the OP stated, it does what I need it to do. Sure it has limitations, but you learn to work around those limitations. As for build quality, yes the 50mm plastic fantastic is lacking, but it is a great lens image quality wise (until you start hearing from bokeh snobs ;-)a ). it was my first lens when I started out with a DSLR.

If it's working for you, then keep pressing on. You mentioned you have 2 in case 1 dies. If the AF noise starts to bug your wedding guests, or it starts to hunt for focus, then maybe it's time to upgrade.

rent both the 1.4 and 1.2 and see what tickles your fancy :-) You may end up sticking with your nifty fifty.


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Aug 29, 2013 15:50 |  #15

For what it costs, the 50/1.8 is a real bargain.

The differences between it and the 50/1.4 as far as image qualities are concerned are subtle, but if you test them carefully side by side you can tell them apart. The f1.4 has a rounder aperture (8 blades vs 5) that makes for nicer bokeh. The 50/1.8's bokeh can be rather "nervous" or "busy" in some situations. The f1.4 lens also controls veiling flare better, making for better contrast and color saturation. But both of them need to be stopped down a bit, typically.

The AF system performance of the f1.8 is likely it's weakest aspect. It's slow, noisy, hunts more and is not particularly accurate. Folks who have tried to use popular focus micro adjust softwares with the f1.8 have given up... it is too inconsistent to "dial in" focus with the software.

The AF performance of the f1.4 is much better. But it's AF is sort of vulnerable to damage. It's usually a good idea to get the hood and use it... both when shooting and reversed when storing the lens, to help protect it from bumps that can damage the AF system. Some also feel using manual override of AF a lot tends to accelerate wear in the mechanism. (The 50/1.8 has to be turned off at the switch before manually focusing it via the very narrow focus ring. Failing to turn it off and overriding it will damage the AF mechanism.)

Other durability issues... The 50/1.8 is pretty easily damaged if dropped. It also is lightly built and tends to wear out with very regular use, such as a pro might do. It might be fine for occasionaly use, though. The plastic bayonet mount isn't very confidence inspiring, but seems to hold up okay.

A minor design issue... the 50/1.8 is light and compact, but to fit it with a lens hood you have to buy an adapter in addition to the hood. On the other hand, it's front element is somewhat recessed and shaded, so a hood might be less necessary than with other lenses.

The 50/1.4 has a focus and depth of field scale. The f1.8 doesn't.

I gotta say, my own experience with a 50/1.4 bought used ten years has been completely problem free. I have no idea how old it really is... But it's always been used with a hood and I really don't manually override AF very much. I looked at the 50/1.8 before buying the f1.4, but didn't think it would hold up to my uses.

The 50L is a very nice lens... Solidly built and quality all the way, but of course it's pricey, large and heavy. There have been stories of some issues with focus shift. It seems optimized for portrait or slightly greater distances... and less so for very close or more distance subjects.

The is also the Sigma 50/1.4 to consider. It feels better built than the Canon equivalent... But only time will tell us if it's actually more durable. The Canon has been around for a couple decades now and likely many tens of thousands more of them have been sold. The Siggy is a relatively "Johnny come lately", has been around for roughly five or six years now, if memory serves. The Siggy is sharper wide open and has slightly smoother background blur (9 blades vs 8). It has HSM, which should be fairly equal to Canon USM. For a 50/1.4, the Siggy is huge and heavy. Who ever heard of a 50mm needing a 77mm filter?! (The 50/1.2L uses a 72mm filter).


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